Tesla MODEL S

ozze

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darjan

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Nekako tako ja, mene bi bolj začeli skrbet ti avtonomni sistemi, če bi recimo med vožnjo onemogočili, da bi človek posegel in prejel vajeti.

Recimo v tem primeru smrti, če bi pač recimo človek videl šleparja, pilot pa ne in bi potem človek skušal rešiti situacijo, pilot pa bi mu to onemogočil. To bi bilo sila resno.

Dokler pa bomo ljudje delali robote, ljudje, ki se motimo, se bodo motili tudi roboti. Seveda je potrebno vsak primer dodobra raziskati in najti algoritem, ki bi lahko to preprečil, ampak bodo tudi situacije, kjer bo pač vmes "nesreča" in ne bo nič pomagalo. Ne rečem, da je ta smrt tak primer, to upam da pokaže preiskava.
 

SHARK1

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Malo pretiravajo že s tem Teslinim avtopilotom oz.pisanjem o njem...odprem greencarsreport.com in v zadnjem času več kot polovica člankov samo o tem avtopilotu!?
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Ne vem,a je to edina stvar,ki jo imajo za pisat,ali res mislijo,da folk nasplošno ob vseh teh obstoječin in prihajajočih EV-jih in hibridih na trgu najbolj zanimajo ravno vsakodnevne novice o teslinem avtopilotu?
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AndY1

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Elon Musk's push for autopilot unnerves some Tesla employees

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Even before Tesla reported the first known death of a driver using its autopilot feature, some employees worried the car company wasn't taking every possible precaution.

However, Tesla CEO Elon Musk brushed aside certain concerns as negligible compared to autopilot's overall lifesaving potential.

Eric Meadows, a former autopilot engineer at Tesla, recalls testing the feature on a Los Angeles highway in mid-2015, a few months before its release, when he was pulled over on suspicion of driving drunk. The car, he says, had struggled to handle the sharp turns while in autopilot mode.

Meadows knew he was "pushing the limits" of autopilot, but he assumed customers would push those limits too. That's why the incident worried him.

"I came in with this mentality that Elon had: I want to go from on-ramp to off-ramp and the driver doesn't have to do anything," says Meadows, who was fired from Tesla two months later for performance reasons. "The last two months I was scared someone was going to die."
 

AndY1

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Torej nov celoten Drivetrain Unit.

Garancije se 5 let ima samo na baterijo in Drivetrain. Splosne garancije nima vec po prevozenih 80.000km.

Novi diski in zavorne ploscice!?! Ali so bili originalni defektni ali pa ga je vozil kot norc, ker vecine zaviranja pri EVjih opravlja regeneracija.
 
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darjan

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Pospešek je useless podatek, veliko bolj uporaben bi recimo bil, koliko metrov porabi od 60mph do 0.

Kolikšen pa je domet pri tej bateriji, kako dolgo se fila, bruto neto kapaciteta, ipd?
 

Gasper008

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315 miles po EPA.

Se pa lepo vidi napredek baterij, leta 2012 je bilo približno pri isti masi in velikosti 85 kWh danes 100 kWh, 18% napredek.

Pri drugih se opazi podoben trend:
- Leaf iz 24 na 30 kWh v 5 letih (+25%)
- BMW i3 iz 22 na 33 kWh (+50%)

Čez 5-10 let bo 40 kWh baterija že kar budget standard, to je ca. 200-250 km
 

SHARK1

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Citat:
Uporabnik Gasper008 pravi:

Se pa lepo vidi napredek baterij, leta 2012 je bilo približno pri isti masi in velikosti 85 kWh danes 100 kWh, 18% napredek.

Zanimiv je ta podatek:
The CEO also stated that the company is at its “theoretical limit” when it comes to how much capacity can be shoved into the Model S/X’s current housing on this chemistry (and while still using the current 18650 batteries – the new 21-70/21700s); but that the 100 kWh cars have a new cooling system and battery pack architecture – although dimensionally the same.

“It’s a pretty big change in the battery module and pack technology. It’s a complete redo on the cooling architecture.” JB Straubel, CTO from the conference call
 

SHARK1

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Pospešek je useless podatek, veliko bolj uporaben bi recimo bil, koliko metrov porabi od 60mph do 0.

Jah kakor za koga,če hočeš zmagati proti LaFerrariju od semaforja do semaforja,ti podatek 2,5 sekunde prav pride
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So bile pa že debate na neki ameriški strani,kdaj bo prvi človek zaradi teh hudih pospeškov dobil zastoj srca,ker že pri P90D z Insane Mode je nekatere zvijalo
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darjan

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heh, no resno, koliko metrov potrebuje 2T avto da se ustavi, še posebeje v urbanem okolju, kjer se bodo drkali od semaforja do semaforja, gume pa verjetno tudi niso top shit?