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Ytbnd

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The alarming findings show that the vast majority of covid hospitalizations are occurring among fully-vaccinated individuals and that outcomes among the fully vaccinated are growing worse with each passing week. This appears to fit the pattern of so-called Antibody Dependent Enhancement, where the treatment intervention (mRNA vaccines) is worsening health outcomes and leading to excess hospitalizations and deaths.

These data, presented here, shatter the official Biden / Fauci narrative that falsely claims America is experiencing, “a pandemic of the unvaccinated.” The data show that the pandemic actually appears to be accelerated by covid-19 vaccines, while unvaccinated individuals are having far better outcomes than the vaccinated.
 

darjan

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Baje pride so tega ce fases mrna v zilo, vensko. Tako da verjetno tam kjer so jih cepili ko krave je prislo do vec takih napak iz strani “stroke”
 

zino

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A ker nimamo enakih mnenj?
Andy, daleč od tega, da nimamo enakih mnenj.
Eno je debata, ko en govori eno, drugi pa drugo. Pri tebi pa tega ni.
Limanje teksta iz medpagetoday ipd pa ni debata.
Lahko zagotovo, z svojim življenjem garantiraš, da je čisto vse, kar si do zdaj limal resnično in verodostojno? Da za Indijskimi novicami stojijo resnične osebe, resnične informacije.
Recimo, jaz lahko trdim, da je sosed včeraj pekel čevapčiče, ker sem ga na lastne oči videl. , torej verodostojno od mene.
Ti pa govoriš, da je Ištvan in Indije fasal miokarditis po cepivu, in prilepiš stavek iz indijskega foruma tipa mon/alter.- in ob tem ne poznaš ištvana, pojma nimaš če obstaja, ampak vseeno to nalepiš in to zagovarjaš., torej... totalni bikov drekec je to.
kdo pa lahko tukaj zagotovi, da medpagestoday ne piše in ureja en Tađikistanski antivakser?
 
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AndY1

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Andy, daleč od tega, da nimamo enakih mnenj.
Eno je debata, ko en govori eno, drugi pa drugo. Pri tebi pa tega ni.
Limanje teksta iz medpagetoday ipd pa ni debata.
Lahko zagotovo, z svojim življenjem garantiraš, da je čisto vse, kar si do zdaj limal resnično in verodostojno? Da za Indijskimi novicami stojijo resnične osebe, resnične informacije.
Recimo, jaz lahko trdim, da je sosed včeraj pekel čevapčiče, ker sem ga na lastne oči videl. , torej verodostojno od mene.
Ti pa govoriš, da je Ištvan in Indije fasal miokarditis po cepivu, in prilepiš stavek iz indijskega foruma tipa mon/alter.- in ob tem ne poznaš ištvana, pojma nimaš če obstaja, ampak vseeno to nalepiš in to zagovarjaš., torej... totalni bikov drekec je to.
kdo pa lahko tukaj zagotovi, da medpagestoday ne piše in ureja en Tađikistanski antivakser?



Findings​

At the country-level, there appears to be no discernable relationship between percentage of population fully vaccinated and new COVID-19 cases in the last 7 days (Fig. 1). In fact, the trend line suggests a marginally positive association such that countries with higher percentage of population fully vaccinated have higher COVID-19 cases per 1 million people. Notably, Israel with over 60% of their population fully vaccinated had the highest COVID-19 cases per 1 million people in the last 7 days. The lack of a meaningful association between percentage population fully vaccinated and new COVID-19 cases is further exemplified, for instance, by comparison of Iceland and Portugal. Both countries have over 75% of their population fully vaccinated and have more COVID-19 cases per 1 million people than countries such as Vietnam and South Africa that have around 10% of their population fully vaccinated.


Of the top 5 counties that have the highest percentage of population fully vaccinated (99.9–84.3%), the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) identifies 4 of them as “High” Transmission counties. Chattahoochee (Georgia), McKinley (New Mexico), and Arecibo (Puerto Rico) counties have above 90% of their population fully vaccinated with all three being classified as “High” transmission. Conversely, of the 57 counties that have been classified as “low” transmission counties by the CDC, 26.3% (15) have percentage of population fully vaccinated below 20%.

Since full immunity from the vaccine is believed to take about 2 weeks after the second dose, we conducted sensitivity analyses by using a 1-month lag on the percentage population fully vaccinated for countries and US counties. The above findings of no discernable association between COVID-19 cases and levels of fully vaccinated was also observed when we considered a 1-month lag on the levels of fully vaccinated (Supplementary Figure 1, Supplementary Figure 2).

We should note that the COVID-19 case data is of confirmed cases, which is a function of both supply (e.g., variation in testing capacities or reporting practices) and demand-side (e.g., variation in people’s decision on when to get tested) factors.

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Interpretation​

The sole reliance on vaccination as a primary strategy to mitigate COVID-19 and its adverse consequences needs to be re-examined, especially considering the Delta (B.1.617.2) variant and the likelihood of future variants. Other pharmacological and non-pharmacological interventions may need to be put in place alongside increasing vaccination rates. Such course correction, especially with regards to the policy narrative, becomes paramount with emerging scientific evidence on real world effectiveness of the vaccines.

For instance, in a report released from the Ministry of Health in Israel, the effectiveness of 2 doses of the BNT162b2 (Pfizer-BioNTech) vaccine against preventing COVID-19 infection was reported to be 39% [6], substantially lower than the trial efficacy of 96% [7]. It is also emerging that immunity derived from the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine may not be as strong as immunity acquired through recovery from the COVID-19 virus [8]. A substantial decline in immunity from mRNA vaccines 6-months post immunization has also been reported [9]. Even though vaccinations offers protection to individuals against severe hospitalization and death, the CDC reported an increase from 0.01 to 9% and 0 to 15.1% (between January to May 2021) in the rates of hospitalizations and deaths, respectively, amongst the fully vaccinated [10].

In summary, even as efforts should be made to encourage populations to get vaccinated it should be done so with humility and respect. Stigmatizing populations can do more harm than good. Importantly, other non-pharmacological prevention efforts (e.g., the importance of basic public health hygiene with regards to maintaining safe distance or handwashing, promoting better frequent and cheaper forms of testing) needs to be renewed in order to strike the balance of learning to live with COVID-19 in the same manner we continue to live a 100 years later with various seasonal alterations of the 1918 Influenza virus.
 
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Ted

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Izvoli bedarijo od NIH.

Namesto, da bi krivulja okužb s procentom precepljenosti padala, ta raste.

Domnevam, da je študija zadosti bedasta zate.
Študija je ok, bolj me zanima kaj predlagaš glede na ugotovitve oz. kako ta študija pade v tvojo agendo (kakršnakoli že to je) ?
 

damirj

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Kaksna studija od NIH? Tole sta spisala dva afganistanca in clanek objavila. Disclaimer si preberi spodaj. Povzetek: gre za mnenje in ni nujno, da je potrjeno kar pise. Ma kje pr bogu ti staknes glih vsako bedarijo in jo potem se zagovarjas? Tebi je za odklopit dostop do neta, ker imas ze posledice, da ne bodo katastrofalne.
 

zino

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Kaksna studija od NIH? Tole sta spisala dva afganistanca in clanek objavila. Disclaimer si preberi spodaj. Povzetek: gre za mnenje in ni nujno, da je potrjeno kar pise. Ma kje pr bogu ti staknes glih vsako bedarijo in jo potem se zagovarjas? Tebi je za odklopit dostop do neta, ker imas ze posledice, da ne bodo katastrofalne.
no, evo, točno to sem mu hotel povedat. Andy prilepi vse, kar piše v smislu njegovega prepričanja.
Ni problem, če ima človek nasprotno mnenje, ni pa prav, če podaja informacije, katere so lahko lažne in zavajajoče.
 

darjan

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uf, dajte no, koliko zavajočeih informacij pa je bilo podano pri nas in to od stroke, vlade, ijs, eetc?