Putinova Rusija

Pac_Man

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Pravim, da so vahabiti toliko bosanski državljani kot Srbi. Z vsemi pravicami in dolžnostmi.

Medtem, o teoriji, da so Rusi pripravljeni jest понос (ponos - ne klikat pred jedjo
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http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02...ll-sets-in.html

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Workers in this city that calls itself the “birthplace of the trains” gained fame some years back for helping birth something far different: President Vladimir V. Putin’s drive to crush and marginalize a budding democracy movement. Recently, after a year with little or no work in the city’s giant train factory, they staged a protest of their own, aimed straight at Mr. Putin and his wealthy cronies in the industrial sector.

“They say they have orders, but they also cut our salaries,” Yevgeny M. Shukhin, a burly, mustachioed worker said of the factory’s management, stomping his feet against the cold at a labor protest this month on Machine-Builders Square.

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In 2012, when Mr. Putin was still campaigning for the presidency, a shift foreman at the factory here in the northern Ural Mountains appeared on a nationally televised call-in show and said that he and his “boys” from the factory were ready to come to Moscow and beat up urban protesters.

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They never did beat up any protesters. But thousands of strapping, fur-hat-topped workers from the factory, Uralvagonzavod, were bused to rallies supporting Mr. Putin in his campaign. And in his first decree after his return to the presidency, Mr. Putin named Mr. Kholmanskikh the Kremlin’s representative in the Urals region, the most senior federal position in the district.

Now, as far as many workers at Uralvagonzavod are concerned, all that might as well have occurred in a different country, or lifetime. “I don’t think Uralvagonzavod will vote for Putin again — we saw what that led to,” Mr. Shukhin said. “This is the opinion of a lot of workers, but a lot of them are afraid to say it. We just don’t understand why they are firing people.”

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But the economic slump is now starting to bite. Real wages, or salaries adjusted for inflation, a common gauge of how working people feel the economic slump, dropped 6.3 percent in January, compared with the year before.

New automobile sales are down a staggering 40 percent, in a country that was recently seen as sailing on a trajectory of growth that would surpass Germany as Europe’s biggest car market. With fewer goods to move, railroads are shunting rolling stock onto sidings and canceling new orders.

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Nizhny Tagil has two pivotal industrial plants: one making steel and the other, Uralvagonzavod, turning out train cars and tanks. Both have announced layoffs, though Uralvagonzavod has since said any “optimization” of its work force of roughly 30,000 will be voluntary.

The fate of the plants reflects another broad economic trend, as Mr. Putin’s reluctance to cut military spending despite the recession and budget crunch has left that side of the Uralvagonzavod humming. While workers on the train-car side of the factory have been put on two-thirds pay — about $260 a month — the tank assembly lines are still rolling full speed, and workers are paid in full.

Out on the snowy streets not far from the factory gates, at the recent protest’s scheduled start time, more police officers than protesters appeared on Machine-Builders Square. A surveillance van pulled up.

A crew of street cleaners in orange vests blocked the pedestrian walkway to the factory, as if clearing snow, lest workers wandered over after their shift.

In the end, a hundred or so people turned out, looking over their shoulders at the uniformed and plainclothes police officers mingling in the crowd, grinning and ostentatiously filming the scene on video cameras.

Ilya Korovin, a local activist, stretched a red banner reading “For Workers’ Rights!” across the pedestal of a statue of Lenin. People milled about on the sidewalk beside a berm of sooty snow; whether taking in the spectacle or joining the protest, it was hard to tell.

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“The factory is just broke. But some still think, ‘Putin loves us; he will throw us some money,’ ” he said. “But we have a market economy. You cannot force somebody to buy our products. Most people are counting on Putin, but my comrades, we cannot remake the communist economy.”

Mikhail G. Scherbakov, a retired shift boss at Uralvagonzavod, said that after 43 years on the assembly line he had a pension was 13,600 rubles, or about $175, a month. “They either have no conscience, or they have no money,” he said.


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In Moscow, Ilya V. Yashin, a leader of the opposition movement that Mr. Kholmanskikh had threatened to crush with his “boys” from the factory, had a message for the laborers.

“Dear Workers of Uralvagonzavod!” he wrote on Facebook. “In the end, the workers who not so long ago threatened to scatter the protesters were themselves forced to go to protest against layoffs and violations of their labor rights. Time put everything in its place.”

Protestirajo zaposleni na programu vlakov, Uralvagonzavod je sicer tovarna, kjer nastajajo tudi vsi ruski tanki (T-72, T-90, Armata).
 

Pac_Man

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Moskva, danes, 1. obletnica umora Nemcova

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Ruski vlak lahko zelo hitro iztiri.
 

N3oNight

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@Pac_Man in kot vidim ti navijaš za to......in kaj bi imel ti od tega......a si res želiš nestabilno Rusijo..???
 

Pac_Man

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Oujea. Stabilnost. Ruski fetiš številka 1.

Jebeš stabilnost, kjer je 1 tip z malenkost rošade na vrhu že 16 let in zaradi praskanja, kjer ne bi smel, umreš za akutno zastrupitvijo s svincem.

Medtem:


Zveni znano
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Pac_Man

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Bom papiga, preverjat se mi ne da in da, tudi kje drugje česa niso (takoj) poročali. Tviti so po vrsti, skozi 11 ur

https://twitter.com/SEEnnis

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The only place the Moscow severed head story is not making the headlines is on Russian state TV

Woman brandishes child's head in centre of Moscow, but still does not make the headlines on Russian state TV

None of main Russian TV channels appears to have covered the story of the Uzbek woman with child's severed head in Moscow 1/2

Imagine how they would have reported the story if it had been an immigrant in Germany who had decapitated a child 2/2

"Non-existent crucified boy in Ukr caused bigger news furore in Russia than real decapitated kid in central Moscow"

Staff at Rus TV stations said they were told not to cover decapitated child story for fear of ethnic tensions http://www.rbc.ru/technology_and_media/01/03/2016/56d48e289a79477f2af24d82 …
 

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https://meduza.io/en/news/2016...r-goes-on-trial

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A trial in Stavropol is now underway against the blogger Viktor Krasnov, who stands accused of offending the feelings of religious people because he dared to write the words “There is no God” in an online argument with a random Vkontakte user. He also called the Bible a “collection of Jewish fairy tales.”

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After being forced by a court to spend a month in a psychiatric hospital, Krasnov was declared sane by doctors. According to an analysis conducted by linguistic experts, his comments about the deity and His favorite book qualify as insults to the feelings of religious folks.

Jup, cirkus Putin.
 

Matey

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Kaj točno ima to veze s Putinom? Oziroma kaj točno sploh očitaš tu in komu?
 

Pac_Man

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Pa poglejmo:

Tip na ruskem facebooku napiše, da ni boga. Na podlagi zakona, ki ga je sprejel štampiljka parlament in v veljavo podpisal Putin osebno, ga najprej zaprejo v norišnico, kjer po enem mesecu le ugotovijo, da ni nor. (zloraba psihiatrije v punitivne namene, stara sovjetska praksa)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_abuse_of_psychiatry_in_the_Soviet_Union
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cases_of_political_abuse_of_psychiatry_in_the_Soviet_Union
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_abuse_of_psychiatry_in_Russia

Ker ni nor, mora za svoje dejanje odgovarjat. Grozi mu do 3 leta zapora, efektivno luknje v Sibiriji, ki jo lahko z ne preveč pretiravanja imenujemo gulag.

http://www.lacan.com/thesymptom/?page_id=2380
http://www.theguardian.com/music/2013/nov/15/pussy-riot-nadezhda-tolokonnikova-slavoj-zizek

Vse to samo zato, ker je na FB napisal, da ni boga. Cirkus.
 

jest5

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Dobro. Ker politik je potem pri nas kriv, da recimo softija v glavo jebejo vsi po spisku zaradi otrok? Saj je moral dati en štempl na zakon ane. To da si ga xyz uradnik po svoje razlaga in izvaja nima veze, en politik je kriv!
 

Matey

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Ah to. Meni se to ne zdi nič posebnega glede na to, da gre za državo, ki očitno da veliko na vero. Za razliko od USA vsaj nimajo napisan na bankovcih "In God we trust" pa ne derejo se na vsakem malem ali večjem zborovanju "God bless America" oz. "God bless Russia", da bo bolj trenutnemu ruskemu primeru primerno.

Pa ne me zdaj narobe razumet, seveda se mi zdi vse to totalen fail.
 

Matey

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Nekaj je tudi na tem ja, na to sem pozabil. Kako je pa s prisego v Rusiji? Ve kdo?
 

Matey

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Pac_man - morda kakšen odziv na komentarje na tvoj prispevek ter primerjave z najpravičnejšimi ZDA? Rusija le ni tako črna, kot jo vedno znova in znova skušaš prikazati.
 

ceedevita

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štajerska
že več krat si dokazal, da si funkcionalno nepismen. lepo piše :

A trial in Stavropol is now underway against the blogger Viktor Krasnov, who stands accused of offending the feelings of religious people because he dared to write the words “There is no God” in an online argument with a random Vkontakte user. He also called the Bible a “collection of Jewish fairy tales.”

in tu še razlaga zakona :

Russian lawmakers introduced the ban on insults to religious sentiments following the infamous Pussy Riot case. People convicted under this law (Article 148 of the Russian Criminal Code) face steep fines and as many as three years behind bars.



kje vidiš ti problem ?


savdijci & co bi verjetno ta kaj takega že glave sekali