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darjan

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Hahaha

Najprej ukinitev pogoja PCT v najmanj tveganih dejavnostih, predlagajo tudi opustitev mask v šolah, vsaj v razredih, postopno pa tudi konec samotestiranja učencev. "V naslednjih dneh in tednih bo skladno z izboljšano epidemiološko situacijo ter predlogom strokovnih skupin odpravljena ali zrahljana večina omejevalnih ukrepov," je napovedal premier Janez Janša.
 

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Najprej ukinitev pogoja PCT v najmanj tveganih dejavnostih, predlagajo tudi opustitev mask v šolah, vsaj v razredih, postopno pa tudi konec samotestiranja učencev. "V naslednjih dneh in tednih bo skladno z izboljšano epidemiološko situacijo ter predlogom strokovnih skupin odpravljena ali zrahljana večina omejevalnih ukrepov," je napovedal premier Janez Janša.

Ravno do volitev. Dobro je to naštudiral, da se ravno sklada.
 
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In zdaj mu bodo množice ploskale. Mene bolj zanima, kaj bo s cepivi, katera so na zalogi in jim tiktaka rok uporabe in še bolj zaskrbljujoče, kakšne plane imajo za naročena še ne dobavljena cepiva.
Morda se je pa v ozadju nekaj močno spremenilo, ker na TV ni več napisov "cepimo se", iz profilov na družabnih omrežij izginjajo ikone inekcije, nekateri so začeli govoriti kontra stvari, za katere so še pred pol leta zagovarjali, itd...
Aja, baje se je med tem časom znanost spremenila. :aplauz:
 

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Čaka se cepivo za omikron, potem ko bo prišlo gremo pa nov krog PCTja in tam do jeseni/zime spet novo mutacijo virusa (s superlativi kot je "30x večja kužnost") in take in drugačne omejitve.
 
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darjan

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Jesen bo spet pestra, če ne bo narod vdaril po mizi - kar pa iz izkušenj gladko rečemo da ne bodo.
 

Floki

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In zdaj mu bodo množice ploskale. Mene bolj zanima, kaj bo s cepivi, katera so na zalogi in jim tiktaka rok uporabe in še bolj zaskrbljujoče, kakšne plane imajo za naročena še ne dobavljena cepiva.
Morda se je pa v ozadju nekaj močno spremenilo, ker na TV ni več napisov "cepimo se", iz profilov na družabnih omrežij izginjajo ikone inekcije, nekateri so začeli govoriti kontra stvari, za katere so še pred pol leta zagovarjali, itd...
Aja, baje se je med tem časom znanost spremenila. :aplauz:

Takim kot si ti bodo položnice poslali ker jih niste porabili.
 
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nemenabijat

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Takim kot si ti, bi pa morali položnice poslat za ves sanitetni material, maske in razkužila, katero je padlo iz kamijona in je tvoja sestrica te stvari pobrala in prinesla domov. In zdej za povrh pa še štrajka, ker bodo korona dodatki usahnili.
 

Floki

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Takim kot si ti, bi pa morali položnice poslat za ves sanitetni material, maske in razkužila, katero je padlo iz kamijona in je tvoja sestrica te stvari pobrala in prinesla domov. In zdej za povrh pa še štrajka, ker bodo korona dodatki usahnili.

Moja sestrica nič ne štrajka sedaj ima tako plačo da bo kupila tebe, tvoje starše in tvojo šmarno goro.
 
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nemenabijat

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Neverjetno, kaj korona dodatki delajo. :valjamse:
Če ma zdej tolk dobro plačo, bo lahko domov prinesla kupljene maske in ne narabutane. :cheer:
 

Matey

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Iz članka citirane bolj pomembne zadeve, najbolj pomembne pa so kot podčrtane še dodatno izpostavljene:
The authors found that monkeys boosted with either vaccine mounted a broad antibody response against all variants of concern, including Omicron.

Importantly, the boosters also had a positive effect on memory B cells, which are responsible for cranking out antibodies to fend off a virus. Both the original vaccine and the updated jab prompted a rise in the animals’ levels of ‘cross-reactive’ memory B cells — those that target many variants, not just the one in the vaccine.

“For now, that’s a very good thing,” says Robert Seder, a co-author of the paper and an immunologist at the US National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases in Bethesda, Maryland. “It means we’re still able to cover all known variants with a boost” of the current vaccines.
Most of the studies involved only a small number of animals — just eight primates, in one case — and none has been peer reviewed. But they offer early hints that a single dose of a customized vaccine won’t change the game against Omicron. A study of eight animals isn’t definitive. But given the condensed pandemic-style timescale, the study has value, says Montefiori. “What these studies are teaching us are the rules of engagement of the immune system when you boost with a variant vaccine,” says Montefiori. Those rules suggest that single boost of a variant-matched vaccine probably isn’t the solution, he says. “There are important questions that still need to be addressed. Hopefully Pfizer and Moderna’s Omicron studies in humans will do that”.

Kot kaže so boosterji na splošno iz vidika večje učinkovitosti cepiva torej smiselni, drugo pa je ali so smiselni v boju proti (zgolj in samo) omicronu.
 
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Zakaj bi testiral na opicah, če imaš milijarde ovc, ki so pripravljene se bvbrizgat z ekperimentalnimi zvarki brez problema? Boge opice.
 
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Zakaj bi testiral na opicah, če imaš milijarde ovc, ki so pripravljene se bvbrizgat z ekperimentalnimi zvarki brez problema? Boge opice.
Nisi prebral članka? Niso testirali samo na opicah, testiranje na ljudeh pa še sledi. Postopki pa to in nekje je pač treba začeti.
Sicer pa se je sodeč po podatkih iz bolnic cepljenim ovcam z izvzemom zelo redkih izjem kar splačalo biti ovce, medtem pa necepljeni volkovi bolj kratke vlečejo.
 
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kajn

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Iskajoč brata
kot je nekdo zgoraj že omenil..

ko odprem stran z novicami me ne zanimajo zmanjšanje omejitev... To bo pred volitvami vse šlo....
Najbolj se bojim novice o neki novi črki, ki bo grozila za Evropo in bo prispela ravno pred zimo, ko je najbolj nevarno...

Sedaj so utečeni vsi postopki, tako da bodo lahko jeseni samo rekli: Grozi nam nova epidemija, nazaj PCT.....
 
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darjan

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Res je ja, ta situacija okoli pandemije, ki to nikoli ni bila, je dala osnove za politično manipulacijo in fašistično vladavino brez omejitev. Marsikje so celo sprejeli zakonske podlage, katere dovoljujejo da se "ad hok" povozio ustavne in temeljne človekove pravice zgolj na podlagi odločitve "politikov".
 

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EXCLUSIVE: Former Harvard Prof. Martin Kulldorff: ‘Science and Public Health Are Broken’​


Dr. Martin Kulldorff is one of the most qualified public health pandemic experts in the United States. To the narrative-shapers, he’s a pariah.

As a prominent epidemiologist and statistician, Kulldorff has worked on detecting and monitoring infectious disease outbreaks for two decades. His methods are widely used around the world and by almost every state health department in the United States, as well as by hundreds of people at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).

Kulldorff has also worked on vaccine safety for decades, developing globally used methods for monitoring adverse reactions in new vaccines.

His résumé on the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) website is 45 pages long and includes a list of 201 peer-reviewed published journal papers. His work has been cited more than 27,000 times.

Since 2003, Kulldorff worked at Harvard Medical School, first as an associate professor of population medicine and later as a professor of medicine.


It’s quite something for a public health scientist at the top of his game to admit that “both science and public health are broken.”

“For some reason, a public official narrative was established, and you weren’t allowed to question it—which, of course, is very detrimental, both to the pandemic and how to deal with the pandemic, because you have to have a vibrant discussion to figure out how best to deal with these things,” he told The Epoch Times.

The Swedish native said he tried to point out in March 2020 that there was a very steep age gradient on mortality for COVID-19, the disease caused by the SARS-CoV-2 virus.

Kulldorff said he attempted to publish a paper both in U.S. medical journals and mainstream newspapers stating that while anyone could contract the virus, the focus should be on protecting the elderly and those at high risk. His paper was knocked back from all directions.


He’s quick to show support for other scientists who agree with him but feel as if they can’t speak out due to potential loss of research funding or even their job. People such as Fauci, who oversees an annual taxpayer-funded budget of over $6 billion at NIAID, hold the purse strings as well as control of what’s published in journals.

“If you dare speak out against [Fauci’s] views on the pandemic, you can lose funding. And if you agree with him and support him, you can gain funding,” Kulldorff said.

Four prominent scientists who were instrumental in shaping the COVID-19 “natural origin” narrative received substantial increases in grant money from Fauci’s NIAID in the subsequent two years, The Epoch Times found.

“So I fully understand that scientists are very afraid of criticizing the policies championed by the guy who sits on the biggest chunk of infectious disease research money in the world,” Kulldorff said.



In January, a Johns Hopkins meta-analysis of lockdown data concluded that lockdowns didn’t save lives.
 
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