Covid-19 Cepiva

LjuboB

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Eh pa ne moreš otrok iz šole jemat.

Naj rajši vse stare butle od 60+ popikajo , saj zaradi takih egoistov smo tukaj kjer smo.

No s tem se pa strinjam, ker je edino logično, ker so samo oni v rizični skupini. Vse bolj je jasno, da bo čredna imunost odpadla, oni bi pa cepili 12 letne otroke in zganjajo represijo nad vsemi, da bi zaščitili 60 letnike.

Naj dajo raje še kakšne informacije kaj so v vsem tem času naredili glede povečanja kapacitet v bolnišnicah za covidne bolnike.

Ampak sedaj po ugotovitvah CDC tudi naše Beovicke itd. obračajo ploščo in težijo o precepljenosti "samo" 50 letnikov. Itak ne morejo imeti in nimajo pojma o razvoju tega, kar se je zdaj lepo pokazalo in zaradi neznanja zganjajo takšno represijo.
 

LjuboB

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Stranska učinka cepiva J. & J. sta tudi omotica in šumenje v ušesih, pri čemer EMA poudarja, da razmerje med koristmi in tveganji cepljenja s tem cepivom ostaja nespremenjeno.

Saj tudi, če bi jih zaradi korone umrlo 10, zaradi cepiva pa 9 je razmerje še vedno ok. Naj dajo že enkrat v formulo še starostno skupino, dobičkarji.
 

Hanzi

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pri taščici
Tole jje fakenews.
Imamo kak avstrijski vir?
 

Ytbnd

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ferdo

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Ljubljana
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Stanje v Izraelu
"As of Thursday morning, there were some 250 COVID-19 patients in serious condition. What are their ages and what is their vaccination status?
About 210 of them are individuals over the age of 60. Of those, 153 were fully vaccinated, seven were in the process of getting fully immunized and 50 were not vaccinated.
Of the 40 patients in serious condition aged under 60, however, only nine were fully inoculated, one was partially vaccinated and 30 had not received any vaccine.
Currently, there are no patients in Israel under the age of 30 who are in serious condition.
In the 30-39 cohort, five individuals are in serious condition, all of whom are unvaccinated.
Among people ages 40-49 there are 15 serious patients, 14 of them not jabbed and one fully inoculated.
In the age group 50-50, unvaccinated patients still surpass vaccinated once, eleven compared to eight (plus one partially inoculated).
Among those who are in serious condition and over the age of 60, the balance shifts: there are more fully vaccinated patients who are in serious conditions than unvaccinated ones. However, some 91% of the relevant population – almost 1.6 million people – is fully immunized, with only 109,000 people not protected.
Looking at the data of how many patients Israel has per 100,000 people, it is clear that those who are not inoculated are still getting seriously ill much more than jabbed people.
In the 60-69 cohort, 27 vaccinated people were in serious condition as of Thursday, in addition to 18 non-vaccinated individuals and one person partially vaccinated. Looking at the numbers per 100,000 people, there are 26.8 patients who were not vaccinated, 9.5 who were partially vaccinated and only 4.1 who were vaccinated.
Among those 70-79, there were 57 fully vaccinated serious patients, three partially vaccinated, and 16 not vaccinated. This translates into 73.4 unvaccinated serious patients per 100,000 people, 52.2 partially vaccinated and 12.3 vaccinated.
In the 80-89 age group, there were 52 serious patients who were vaccinated, one partially vaccinated, and 12 not vaccinated. Considering data per 100,000 people, there are 105 unvaccinated serious patients, 25.7 partially vaccinated serious patients, and 25 vaccinated serious patients.
Among individuals over the age of 90, there were 18 people fully vaccinated, two partially vaccinated and two non-vaccinated. However, taking into consideration the numbers per 100,000 people, this means 60.3 unvaccinated serious patients per 100,000, 115.1 partially vaccinated serious patients and 38.8 vaccinated serious patients."
 
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A lahko narediš povzetek v parih besedah, kaj je poanta tega članka in zakaj je to relevantno.

Nisem bral celega članka, ker sem po parih stavkih ocenil da je totalna neumnost in nevredno celotnega branja. Pa bi samo rad preveril, čemu si ga ti objavil.
 

novaa

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Placebo kontrolni skupini so javili da jih niso cepili s pravim cepivom in se je potem večina šla cepit s pravim.... Zdaj pa nimajo več realne primerjave učinkovitosti cepiva....
 
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LjuboB

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Jao jao, strokovnjaki o_Oo_Oo_O
 

p4pe

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A lahko narediš povzetek v parih besedah, kaj je poanta tega članka in zakaj je to relevantno.

Nisem bral celega članka, ker sem po parih stavkih ocenil da je totalna neumnost in nevredno celotnega branja. Pa bi samo rad preveril, čemu si ga ti objavil.
Zato ker copy paste-a čist vse možne bedarije, ni pa še 1 stavka celga skp spravil.
 

Ytbnd

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Continuing to push universal vaccination is reasonably likely to drive development of a "supervirus" variant that will be completely resistant to spike antigen-driven vaccine immune responses. Universal vaccination- bad policy based on naive understanding of viral evolution.
CDC Director Changes Her Story, Now Admits COVID Vaccines Don’t Prevent Virus Transmission
 

LjuboB

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Uff zdaj je vse jasno s strani prave stroke, ne pa od naših strokofnjakof, ki samo kopirajo. Kaj pa zdaj?

 
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brane_new

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Več ko testiraš, več je okuženih.
Več ko je cepljenih, več jih je okuženih.

Sam pač ne iščem. Eni imate boljši vpogled.
Če pogledamo razmerje cepljeni:necepljen, kakšno pa je razmerje pri na novo okuženih.
Ali pa razmerje med bolnišničnim zdravljenjem oz. blago prebolevnost.
 

LjuboB

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Več ko testiraš, več je okuženih.

Da, ampak naši strokovnjaki ne upoštevajo razmerja, ampak število okuženih.

Če pogledamo razmerje cepljeni:necepljen, kakšno pa je razmerje pri na novo okuženih.

Pri nas še ni toliko delte. Problem, ki pa je nastal, je da se vsak samo še zase cepi, ker imajo cepljeni z delto enako količino virusa kot necepljeni. In ga tudi prenašajo v enaki meri. Tako, da je PCT in elektronski pasuš brez pomena.

Ne ve se pa kaj bojo prinesli naslednji sevi. Strokovnjaki lahko samo zavajajo kot so na začetku, zdaj pa se je začela kazat jasna slika.
 

nemenabijat

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Mi bomo vseeno PCT, ne glede na vse. Čeprav z veliko zamudo, samo da bomo, ker so vsi ostali tudi. Če je ali pa ni efekt, je pa itak vseeno.
Uff zdaj je vse jasno s strani prave stroke, ne pa od naših strokofnjakof, ki samo kopirajo. Kaj pa zdaj?

 

mirsi

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Če pogledamo razmerje cepljeni:necepljen, kakšno pa je razmerje pri na novo okuženih.
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To se pa da lepo izračunat.
Če imaš v množici 100 ljudi 40 cepljenih in 60 necepljenih in jih izpostaviš virusu, potem če cepivo ščiti 95% se ukužita 2 cepljena in 60 necepljenih.
Torej je razmerje 30:1 :evil:
 
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