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mirsi

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Kaj dokazuješ svojo fu...nost?
A mogoče ni res?
Pa ne samo to, da so bili kaznovani, ker so brali ustavo, kaznovana je bila tudi gospodična, ki se je mimo parlamenta sprehodila z odprtim dežnikom, na katerim je pisalo vladozlom. in še bi lahko naštevali.

In to kar js pišem, vsaj vemo, da je bilo res, kaj pa se je dogajalo v daljni rusiji, pa glede na dosedanje poročanje MSM in njihovo protirusko propagando vedno lahko dvomimo v resničnost poročanja - Od Ghost os Kijev dalje.

V čem smo potem mi boljši od rusov, če kaznujemo za branje ustave, hojo z dežnikom mimo parlamenta...
 
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Ytbnd

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Everything suggests that the Ukrainian Armed Forces did not leave Avdeevka, but ran away.
A sufficient amount of ammunition and ammunition was thrown. They didn’t have time to clear anything and even the documents of military units, etc., were thrown away.

The Russians are already publishing their findings.
For example, boxes with cartridges, grenades, or the remaining intact Swedish Carl-Gustaf grenade launchers and ammunition for them.

No one prepared a planned departure, but were forced to leave due to the failures of the command.





Our source reports that Commander-in-Chief Syrsky gave the order last night to withdraw from Avdeevka for only one reason.
The Ukrainian Armed Forces units began to leave on their own. But, first of all, the third assault itself decided to leave the positions of the “coking plant”, since being there was fatal, as if in a trap.

For the General Staff and Bankova it was a shock that no one remained to fight to the last, as was the case at Azovstal. The soldiers chose life over death for the sake of the political interests of Zelensky and his entourage.

This was a forced measure by Syrsky to show that there was no rebellion or split in the army, that everything was “planned.” That is why some units of the Ukrainian Armed Forces remained blocked at the coke plant and did not have time to leave, like many in Avdiivka. Nobody warned them about leaving. They learned about this fact from the Internet.

Avdiivka is significant in that it showed what we warned about. The morale of the army fell very low, and the illusion created by the propaganda of the OP that everything was fine led to such consequences.

If no conclusions are drawn. There will be more and more Avdeevkas.
 
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Floki

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Dosti so ga uničili ampak za vsega ni bilo časa. Tale umik je bil kar ekspresno hiter.
 

mirsi

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Bi jih morali poslat pred vojaško sodišče, vse, ki so samovoljno zapustili položaje, in obsoditi dezerterstva. To, kar so naredili - samovoljno zapustili položaje, se v nobeni vojski ne dela.

Je bilo obljubljeno, da jim damo zahodno orožje, plače, obveščevalne podatke, tja pošiljamo miljarde, da bodo premagali ruse, zahod je svojo obljubo izpolnil, oni pa pobegnejo, ko malo močneje poči.

V ukrajino je zahod poslal vojaške pomoči za nekaj vojaških proračunov celotne Rusije, In kaj smo za to dobili?
Namesto da bi se motivirano borili za svojo domovino, za kar jih tudi plačujemo, raje pobegnejo ali se predajo. In to rusom, ki so demoralizirani, že lani jim je zmanjkalo vsega razen lopat, rusom, katere so sankcije skoraj že uničile.... To je blago rečeno izdaja :evil::evil::evil:
 
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Ukraine's military shot down two Russian Su-34 fighter jets and another Russian Su-35 combat aircraft on Feb. 17, Air Force Commander Mykola Oleshchuk reported.
3 ali 0 ?
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Floki

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En Su-35 je pa bil res sestreljen, drugo so pa mokre sanje. Zanimivo da njihovi največji založniki ocenjujejo ruske žrtve na 315 k (mrtvih in ranjenih) , pa še te so verjetno v primerjavi s tem kaj rusi poročajo nekje vmes z ruskimi. Kolk ti mora dogajat v glavi da nasedaš na to ukrainsko propagando.
 
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En Su-35 je pa bil res sestreljen, drugo so pa mokre sanje. Zanimivo da njihovi največji založniki ocenjujejo ruske žrtve na 315 k (mrtvih in ranjenih) , pa še te so verjetno v primerjavi s tem kaj rusi poročajo nekje vmes z ruskimi. Kolk ti mora dogajat v glavi da nasedaš na to ukrainsko propagando.

Po drugi strani pa imaš take strani, kjer je fotoevidentiranih celo več izgubljene mehanizacije, kot pa jo Ukrajinska Propaganda vodi:

 
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Ytbnd

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En Su-35 je pa bil res sestreljen, drugo so pa mokre sanje. Zanimivo da njihovi največji založniki ocenjujejo ruske žrtve na 315 k (mrtvih in ranjenih) , pa še te so verjetno v primerjavi s tem kaj rusi poročajo nekje vmes z ruskimi. Kolk ti mora dogajat v glavi da nasedaš na to ukrainsko propagando.
Mediazona (od pussy riot) pravi ~40k kia.
 
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ferdo

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"By our calculations, as of late May 2023, roughly 47,000 Russian men under the age of 50 have died in the war. To be absolutely precise, we can assert with a 95% probability that the true number of casualties falls between 40,000 and 55,000. This estimate does not take into account the losses of the Donetsk People’s Republic (DPR) and Luhansk People’s Republic (LPR)."

Se pravi - eno leto nazaj (cca), in brez lokalnih ali "najetih tujih" vojakov.
 
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lep biznis in testni poligon
 

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