The Judgment day

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Rezultati so vidni samo po glasovanju.

eazy

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Uh, še veliko stvari ne vemo. Skoraj ni za verjet.

Najbolj tragicno pri tej zadevi je se sploh filozofira o vlogi Clintonove
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AndY1

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Select Committee on Benghazi Releases Proposed Report: http://benghazi.house.gov/NewInfo

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The Libyan forces that evacuated Americans from the CIA Annex to the Benghazi airport was not affiliated with any of the militias the CIA or State Department had developed a relationship with during the prior 18 months. Instead, it was comprised of former Qadhafi loyalists who the U.S. had helped remove from power during the Libyan revolution. [pg. 144]
 

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John "neocon satan" McCain

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/john-mccain-trump-torture-waterboarding-231668

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Republican Sen. John McCain issued a fiery warning to President-elect Donald Trump on the subject of torture Saturday.

“I don’t give a damn what the president of the United States wants to do. We will not waterboard,” McCain told an audience at the annual Halifax International Security Forum. “We will not torture people … It doesn’t work.”
 

keber

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Meja med USA in Mehiko je dolga 3200km.

Obstaja pa že takšen zid v skupni dolžini 8850km, težek teren, stroji so tudi že malo napredovali...

zagotovo si opazil da govorimo o razliki med ograjo in zidom...
Ograja, ki sem jo napisal, je visoka 4-5 m, narejena iz vertikalnih palic in jo ravno tako zlahka preplezaš kot popolnoma raven zid. Tako da ja, same shit.
 

AndY1

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John "neocon satan" McCain

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/john-mccain-trump-torture-waterboarding-231668

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Republican Sen. John McCain issued a fiery warning to President-elect Donald Trump on the subject of torture Saturday.

“I don’t give a damn what the president of the United States wants to do. We will not waterboard,” McCain told an audience at the annual Halifax International Security Forum. “We will not torture people … It doesn’t work.”

Je bil McCain tako načelen tudi v času administracije Busha Jr?
 

eazy

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Meja med USA in Mehiko je dolga 3200km.

Obstaja pa že takšen zid v skupni dolžini 8850km, težek teren, stroji so tudi že malo napredovali...

zagotovo si opazil da govorimo o razliki med ograjo in zidom...
Ograja, ki sem jo napisal, je visoka 4-5 m, narejena iz vertikalnih palic in jo ravno tako zlahka preplezaš kot popolnoma raven zid. Tako da ja, same shit.

Ograja v tvoji glavi nima veze z ograjo o kateri se govori. Ti si lahko predstavljas 125 iz uberturbo wahteve pa to nima veze z dejanskim stanjem, kajnede... Ograja o kateri govorimo je alternativa zidu Trumpa.

Trenutno obstajajo razne ovire, od ograj do zidu vendar je Trump denici obljubljal oh in sploh the fantasticen zid katerega bodo morali sosedje placati. Zid je sredi kampanje celo zvisal....

Sedaj je zgodba o oh in sploh zidu preteklost in se govori o ograji ,ki je vecinoma ze imajo. In ja dalec oh in sploh zidu. Nekdo je bil nategnjen...
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in podobne prepreke ze imajo... Ze dolgo casa in so sami placali. Od zidu bo pa 0.
 

eazy

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John "neocon satan" McCain

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/john-mccain-trump-torture-waterboarding-231668

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Republican Sen. John McCain issued a fiery warning to President-elect Donald Trump on the subject of torture Saturday.

“I don’t give a damn what the president of the United States wants to do. We will not waterboard,” McCain told an audience at the annual Halifax International Security Forum. “We will not torture people … It doesn’t work.”

Je bil McCain tako načelen tudi v času administracije Busha Jr?

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Pac_Man

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Še enkrat, bil.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...tional_security

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McCain has been an opponent of the Bush administration's use of "enhanced interrogation techniques" in the War on Terror, and has specifically referred to waterboarding as torture.[62][63] On October 3, 2005, McCain introduced the McCain Detainee Amendment to the Defense Appropriations bill for 2005. On October 5, 2005, the United States Senate voted 90-9 to support the amendment.[64] The amendment prohibits inhumane treatment of prisoners, including prisoners at Guantanamo Bay, by confining interrogations to the techniques in FM 34-52 Intelligence Interrogation.
 

AndY1

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Potem pa kapo dol, kljub temu, da se v marsičemu z njim ne strinjam.
 

Pac_Man

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Se mi zdi, da je nestrinjanje precej omejeno na par zunanjepolitičnih epizod.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_McCain#First_two_terms_in_U.S._Senate

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As first a House member and then a senator – and as a lifelong gambler with close ties to the gambling industry[92] – McCain was one of the main authors of the 1988 Indian Gaming Regulatory Act,[93][94] which codified rules regarding Native American gambling enterprises.[95] McCain was also a strong supporter of the Gramm-Rudman legislation that enforced automatic spending cuts in the case of budget deficits.

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McCain became embroiled in a scandal during the 1980s, as one of five United States senators comprising the so-called Keating Five.[98] Between 1982 and 1987, McCain had received $112,000 in lawful[99] political contributions from Charles Keating Jr. and his associates at Lincoln Savings and Loan Association, along with trips on Keating's jets[98] that McCain belatedly repaid, in 1989.

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Helped by McCain's efforts, in 1995 the U.S. normalized diplomatic relations with Vietnam.[107] McCain was vilified by some POW/MIA activists who, unlike the Arizona senator, believed large numbers of Americans were still held against their will in Southeast Asia.

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In 1993 and 1994, McCain voted to confirm President Clinton's nominees Stephen Breyer and Ruth Bader Ginsburg whom he considered to be qualified for the U.S. Supreme Court. He would later explain that "under our Constitution, it is the president's call to make."

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McCain attacked what he saw as the corrupting influence of large political contributions – from corporations, labor unions, other organizations, and wealthy individuals – and he made this his signature issue.[113] Starting in 1994, he worked with Democratic Wisconsin Senator Russ Feingold on campaign finance reform; their McCain–Feingold bill attempted to put limits on "soft money".

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In 1993, McCain opposed military operations in Somalia.[118] Another target of his was pork barrel spending by Congress, and he actively supported the Line Item Veto Act of 1996, which gave the president power to veto individual spending items[113] but was ruled unconstitutional by the Supreme Court in 1998.

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In 1997, McCain became chairman of the powerful Senate Commerce Committee; he was criticized for accepting funds from corporations and businesses under the committee's purview, but in response said the small contributions he received were not part of the big-money nature of the campaign finance problem.[113] McCain took on the tobacco industry in 1998, proposing legislation that would increase cigarette taxes in order to fund anti-smoking campaigns, discourage teenage smokers, increase money for health research studies, and help states pay for smoking-related health care costs.

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In the February 1999 Senate trial following the impeachment of Bill Clinton, McCain voted to convict the president on both the perjury and obstruction of justice counts, saying Clinton had violated his sworn oath of office.[123] In March 1999, McCain voted to approve the NATO bombing campaign against the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia, saying that the ongoing genocide of the Kosovo War must be stopped and criticizing past Clinton administration inaction.

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McCain began 2001 by breaking with the new George W. Bush administration on a number of matters, including HMO reform, climate change, and gun legislation; McCain–Feingold was opposed by Bush as well.[115][153] In May 2001, McCain was one of only two Senate Republicans to vote against the Bush tax cuts.McCain began 2001 by breaking with the new George W. Bush administration on a number of matters, including HMO reform, climate change, and gun legislation; McCain–Feingold was opposed by Bush as well.[115][153] In May 2001, McCain was one of only two Senate Republicans to vote against the Bush tax cuts.

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After the September 11, 2001 attacks, McCain supported Bush and the U.S.-led war in Afghanistan.[153][160] He and Democratic senator Joe Lieberman wrote the legislation that created the 9/11 Commission,[161] while he and Democratic senator Fritz Hollings co-sponsored the Aviation and Transportation Security Act that federalized airport security.[162]

In March 2002, McCain–Feingold, officially known as the Bipartisan Campaign Reform Act of 2002, passed in both Houses of Congress and was signed into law by President Bush.[115][153] Seven years in the making, it was McCain's greatest legislative achievement.[153][163]

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Meanwhile, in discussions over proposed U.S. action against Iraq, McCain was a strong supporter of the Bush administration's position.[153] He stated that Iraq was "a clear and present danger to the United States of America", and voted accordingly for the Iraq War Resolution in October 2002. (...) In May 2003, McCain voted against the second round of Bush tax cuts, saying it was unwise at a time of war.[154] By November 2003, after a trip to Iraq, he was publicly questioning Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, saying that more U.S. troops were needed; the following year, McCain announced that he had lost confidence in Rumsfeld.

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In October 2003, McCain and Lieberman co-sponsored the Climate Stewardship Act that would have introduced a cap and trade system aimed at returning greenhouse gas emissions to 2000 levels; the bill was defeated with 55 votes to 43 in the Senate.

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Breaking from his 2001 and 2003 votes, McCain supported the Bush tax cut extension in May 2006, saying not to do so would amount to a tax increase.[154] Working with Democratic Senator Ted Kennedy, McCain was a strong proponent of comprehensive immigration reform, which would involve legalization, guest worker programs, and border enforcement components.

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Nevertheless, McCain emerged as a leader of the Republican opposition to the Obama economic stimulus package of 2009, saying it had too much spending for too little stimulative effect.[263] McCain also voted against Obama's Supreme Court nomination of Sonia Sotomayor – saying that while undeniably qualified, "I do not believe that she shares my belief in judicial restraint"

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McCain also harshly criticized Obama for scrapping construction of the U.S. missile defense complex in Poland, declined to enter negotiations over climate change legislation similar to what he had proposed in the past, and strongly opposed the Obama health care plan.[267][268] McCain led a successful filibuster of a measure that would allow repeal of the military's "Don't ask, don't tell" policy towards gays.[269] Factors involved in McCain's new direction included Senate staffers leaving, a renewed concern over national debt levels and the scope of federal government, a possible Republican primary challenge from conservatives in 2010, and McCain's campaign edge being slow to wear off.

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In the lame duck session of the 111th Congress, McCain voted for the compromise Tax Relief, Unemployment Insurance Reauthorization, and Job Creation Act of 2010,[278] but against the DREAM Act (which he had once sponsored) and the New START Treaty.[279] Most prominently, he continued to lead the eventually losing fight against "Don't ask, don't tell" repeal.

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As the Arab Spring took center stage, McCain urged that the embattled Egyptian president, Hosni Mubarak, step down and thought the U.S. should push for democratic reforms in the region despite the associated risks of religious extremists gaining power.[281] McCain was an especially vocal supporter of the 2011 military intervention in Libya. In April of that year he visited the Anti-Gaddafi forces and National Transitional Council in Benghazi, the highest-ranking American to do so, and said that the rebel forces were "my heroes".

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He became one of the most vocal critics of the Obama administration's handling of the September 11, 2012, attack on the U.S. diplomatic mission in Benghazi, saying it was a "debacle" that featured either "a massive cover-up or incompetence that is not acceptable" and that it was worse than the Watergate scandal.

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Regarding the Syrian civil war that had begun in 2011, McCain repeatedly argued for the U.S. intervening militarily in the conflict on the side of the anti-government forces.[294] He staged a visit to rebel forces inside Syria in May 2013, the first senator to do so, and called for arming the Free Syrian Army with heavy weapons and for the establishment of a no-fly zone over the country.

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McCain was publicly skeptical about the Republican strategy that precipitated the U.S. federal government shutdown of 2013 and U.S. debt-ceiling crisis of 2013 in order to defund or delay the Affordable Care Act; in October 2013 he voted in favor of the Continuing Appropriations Act, 2014, which resolved them and said, "Republicans have to understand we have lost this battle, as I predicted weeks ago, that we would not be able to win because we were demanding something that was not achievable."

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McCain remained stridently opposed to many aspects of Obama's foreign policy, however, and in June 2014, following major gains by the Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant in the 2014 Northern Iraq offensive, decried what he saw as a U.S. failure to protect its past gains in Iraq and called on the president's entire national security team to resign. McCain said, "Could all this have been avoided? ... The answer is absolutely yes. If I sound angry it's because I am angry."

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McCain was a supporter of the Euromaidan protests against Ukraine leader Viktor Yanukovych and his government, and appeared in Independence Square in Kiev in December 2013.[310] Following the 2014 Russian military intervention in Ukraine, McCain became a vocal supporter of providing arms to Ukrainian military forces, saying the sanctions imposed against Russia were not enough.

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Unlike many Republicans, McCain supported the release and contents of the Senate Intelligence Committee report on CIA torture in December 2014, saying "The truth is sometimes a hard pill to swallow. It sometimes causes us difficulties at home and abroad. It is sometimes used by our enemies in attempts to hurt us. But the American people are entitled to it, nonetheless."[313] He added that the CIA's practices following the September 11 attacks had "stained our national honor" while doing "much harm and little practical good" and that "Our enemies act without conscience. We must not."[314] He opposed the Obama administration's December 2014 decision to normalize relations with Cuba.

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As the 114th United States Congress assembled in January 2015 with Republicans in control of the Senate, McCain became chair of the Armed Services Committee, a longtime goal of his.[316] In this position, he led the writing of proposed Senate legislation that sought to modify parts of the Goldwater-Nichols Act of 1986 in order to return responsibility for major weapons systems acquisition back to the individual armed services and their secretaries and away from the Under Secretary of Defense for Acquisition, Technology and Logistics.
 

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General Mattis, glavni kandidat za obrambnega ministra, maj 2015

https://news.usni.org/2015/05/14/mattis-u-s-suffering-strategic-atrophy

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Speaking in Washington, D.C., retired Marine Corps Gen. James Mattis said, “the perception is we’re pulling back” on America’s commitment to its allies and partners, leaving them adrift in a changing world. “We have strategic atrophy.”

He said Russia’s military moves against its neighbors—taking Crimea and backing separatists in Ukraine is “much more severe, more serious” than Washington and the European Union are treating it.

The nationalist emotions that Russian President Vladimir Putin has stirred up will make it “very, very hard [for him or his successors] to pull back from some of the statements he has made” about the West. At the same time, Putin faces problems of his own with jihadists inside Russia’s borders that threaten domestic stability.

But Putin also demonstrated Russia’s nuclear capability with long-range bomber flights near NATO countries. His intent is “to break NATO apart.”

Mattis said China “is doing a pretty good job of finding friction points between our allies,” such as Korea and Japan.

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In the Middle East, he described a Sunni and Shi’ia civil war where “terrorism is only part of the problem.” He said there is a more important question: “Is political Islam [in both sects] in our best interest?”

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He said since World War II the United States helped create a world order—diplomatically [United Nations] , economically [World Bank and International Monetary Fund], culturally and militarily.

By renewing that combination of inspiration and intimidation, “I have no doubt we can turn this around.”

NWOjevci
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Mont

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Pac_Man,

Kaj če bi ti raje knjigo napisal.
Tu te itak nihče ne bere.
Mogoče boš kakšno prodal v ZDA, ali pa kam drugam...
 

Pac_Man

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meh, preveč dela + ni moja stroka.

Danes sem poslušal cel spodnji pogovor.


Klasika, Ševardnadzejeva mu celo debato skuša v usta porinit, kako so ZDA krive za vse in še kaj, najbolj zanimiv pa je Q&A pri 35. minuti, ko govori o Assadu in balkanizaciji bližnjega vzhoda.

Živahno bo.
 

jest5

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Kaj pa je tvoja stroka
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Celodnevno gledanje youtuba, ter pro ZDA strani v iskanju ključne besede Rusija?
 

mtl

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Trump je že začel s skrbjo za lasten žep. Predstavitev svojega hotela za diplomate, pri prvem uradnem pogovoru s predsednikom Argentine (se mi zdi, ena južnoameriška država je bila) ga je tudi že pobaral, kako je kaj z dovoljenji za njegov gradbeni projekt.

Me prav zanima, če bo zdržal 4 leta v sedlu.