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Daj še preostanek lestvice.
Me zanima če je poleg še kak Roosevelt ali Truman...
Daj še preostanek lestvice.
Me zanima če je poleg še kak Roosevelt ali Truman...
To seveda ni res.... Ce ze zlorabljas stevilke o katerih ocitno nimas blage k. veze:
To number of 597,323 killed with known name and surname Federal Bureau of Statistics h as added another 20 - 30 % of dead (called deficiency in report) for unknown victims which has given between 750,000 to 780,000 people killed by German, Italian, Hungarian, Bulgarian or Quisling forces. Together with estimated 200,000 alleged collaborators killed, the total number would reach about one million. This listing compiled at the request of the Federal Republic of Germany in 1964 will be declared state secret and first time is published only in 1989
In Slovenia, the Institute for Contemporary History, Ljubljana launched a comprehensive research on the exact number of victims of WWII in Slovenia in 1995. After more than a decade of research, the final report was published in 2005, which included a list of names. The number of victims was set at 89,404 . The figure also includes the victims of summary killings by the Communist regime immediately after the war (around 13,500 people). The results of the research came as a shock for the public, since the actual figures were more than 30% higher of the highest estimates during the Yugoslav period. Even if one counts only the number of deaths up to May 1945 (thus excluding the military prisoners killed by the Yugoslav Army between May and July 1945), the number remains considerable higher than the highest previous estimates (around 75,000 deaths vs. an estimate of 60,000). There are several reasons for such a difference. The new comprehensive research also included Slovenes killed by the Partisan resistance, both in battle (members of collaborationist and anti-Communist units), and civilians (around 4,000 between 1941 and 1945). Furthermore, the new estimates includes all the Slovenians from Nazi-occupied Slovenia who were drafted in the Wehrmacht and died either in battle of in prisoner camps during the war. The figure also includes the Slovenes from the Julian March who died in the Italian Army (1940–1943), those from Prekmurje who died in the Hungarian Army, and those who fought and died in various Allied (mostly British) units. The figure does not include victims from Venetian Slovenia (except of those who joined the Slovenian Partisan units), nor does it include the victims among Carinthian Slovenes (again with the exception of those fighting in the Partisan units) and Hungarian Slovenes. 47% percent of casualties during the war were partisans, 33% were civilians (of which 82% were killed by Axis powers or Slovene home guard), and 20% were members of the Slovene home guard.
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Zločinec je zločinec, je pa res da je naš zločinec dal roko nad svoj narod, pa ne govorim o ti. kvizlingih, temveč o kmetu, učitelju, delavcu, verniku, demokratu....
stieber, a ti sploh ves kaj pomeni semantika? dvomim, ker drugace ne bi pisal o nekih neposrednih omembah.
torej, ce v prisegi, dani leta 1944 pise; da bom v skupnem boju z nemško oboroženo silo, stoječo pod poveljstvom vodje velike Nemčije, potem to pomeni, da so posredno, a hkrati nedvoumno prisegli Dolfiju, ki je bil takrat vodja velike Nemcije, kot pise zgoraj...
komu drugemu kot pa hitlerju bi lahko takrat kot vodji nemcije zaprisegli? angeli merkel?
a zdaj bo slo razumet?
torej so bili cisti kolaboranti in izdajalci. in v vojnah so izdajalce po hitrem postopku spravli pod ruso (edino pravilno), razen seveda pri nas ne
pa da ne bo kdo mislil, da sem "Titoist". dalec od tega. menim da je bilo po vojni mnogo odlocitev napacnih (recimo povojni poboji, v kolikor so nastradali nedolzni, zenske in otroci, za izdajalce mi je vseeno, lahko bi jim edino prej sodili in jih pol pobili do zadnjega).
tudi vprasanje, ali je bil socializem prava pot, razumem da je marsikdo bil jezen, ker so mu odvzeli zemljo in imetje (tudi jaz bi bil), da so mu vsilili nek druzbeni red, ampak tako je pac bilo, bilo je za vse enako.
torej, ce v prisegi, dani leta 1944 pise; da bom v skupnem boju z nemško oboroženo silo, stoječo pod poveljstvom vodje velike Nemčije, potem to pomeni, da so posredno, a hkrati nedvoumno prisegli Dolfiju, ki je bil takrat vodja velike Nemcije, kot pise zgoraj...
komu drugemu kot pa hitlerju bi lahko takrat kot vodji nemcije zaprisegli? angeli merkel?
a zdaj bo slo razumet?
torej so bili cisti kolaboranti in izdajalci. in v vojnah so izdajalce po hitrem postopku spravli pod ruso (edino pravilno), razen seveda pri nas ne
pa da ne bo kdo mislil, da sem "Titoist". dalec od tega. menim da je bilo po vojni mnogo odlocitev napacnih (recimo povojni poboji, v kolikor so nastradali nedolzni, zenske in otroci, za izdajalce mi je vseeno, lahko bi jim edino prej sodili in jih pol pobili do zadnjega).
tudi vprasanje, ali je bil socializem prava pot, razumem da je marsikdo bil jezen, ker so mu odvzeli zemljo in imetje (tudi jaz bi bil), da so mu vsilili nek druzbeni red, ampak tako je pac bilo, bilo je za vse enako.
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Ti resno primerjas Adolfa in Josipa?
Dalo bi se ju. Oba sta bila ljubitelja pobojev in taborišč, tajne policije in kulta osebnosti, s tem da je pri slednjem prednjačil josip...
Lahko kdo ki je bil v JNA zapiše prisego ........mogoče bo potem eazy-u svanulo
Mal bluziš........90% tardečih kle gor bi te mel za kolaboranta in ta belga če bi vzel puško v roke in nekoga ki ti je hotu vzet bajto al pa edini kruh k si ga mel poču u sred čela......seveda pol bi mogu tud pobegnt čez mejo.....
Mel tak primer v družini.......bli pacifisti....jaz ne bi bil....
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Tudi to ni res... Prvi bi od tvojih prednih prednikov naredil milo, drugi je zgradil vecino Slovenije. Poleg tega da je ponudil vse vecini danasnjih turbodemokratov
kako pa veš, kakšne prednike ima on? večina slovenije je bila že zgrajena. josip jo je pahnil tisočletje nazaj...
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