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Uporabnik darjan pravi:
Ne samo rumene, duple rumene, kar pomeni "velika nevarnost, bodi pripravljen da se ustaviš", a on se fura 210kmh.

Potem pa naletimo na komentarje, kako slabo je reagiralo vodstvo dirke, ja kaj pa naj naredijo, če dirkači ne upoštevajo pravil.

Bi pa bilo zanimivo videt, koliko so se ostali peljali skozi dunlop?

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... I’ve been saying since 2010 that flag discipline is deteriorating, and it’s deteriorating fast. And no one is making properly vigorous efforts to re-establish it.

At every F1 drivers briefing, the drivers hound Charlie for a number – “how fast can i go under yellows?” or “how fast under double yellows?”. Or even, “will I be penalised if I do 0.2 sec less than the last time thru that sector…”

THEY’RE MISSING THE POINT. AND BECAUSE WE’RE NOT INSISTING ENOUGH ON THE RIGHT ANSWER, BAD THINGS HAPPEN.

The point is that the speed that’s appropriate under double yellows is variable. It’s not a speed limit, it’s a warning. Just ahead you might have nowhere to go. Or, just ahead someone’s uncle, brother, father is pushing one of your colleague’s cars off the circuit (remember the marshal whose legs you broke in Monaco Pastor? When you kept your foot in it through double yellows into Casino? I do).

I bet that the “appropriate” speed through T6-7 Sunday was probably something like 80-100 km/h – something like pit lane speed. Had drivers done that, the absurdity would have rapidly become apparent, and race control would have had little choice but to deploy the SC.

Disrespect for flag discipline is not a minor issue. It kills and injures people. If flags are respected, things get remarkably safer. If these flags had been respected, it is hard to imagine this accident happening, at least with this kind of energy...

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Ne samo rumene, duple rumene, kar pomeni "velika nevarnost, bodi pripravljen da se ustaviš", a on se fura 210kmh.

Potem pa naletimo na komentarje, kako slabo je reagiralo vodstvo dirke, ja kaj pa naj naredijo, če dirkači ne upoštevajo pravil.

Bi pa bilo zanimivo videt, koliko so se ostali peljali skozi dunlop?

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kdo pravi, da ni upostaval pravil? koliko je treba zmanjsat po pravilih? v koliko metrih se je treba bit pripravljen ustavit. Se enkrat: tomso dirkaci na dirki, niti stotinke ne dajo kar tako. edino pravilno razmisljanje, ce hoces bit uspese. pravil pa morajo biti taka, da stvari jasno in natancno predpisejo.

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Ne strinjam se s tabo, ker zagovarjas anarjiho. Tole dohtar pravi o zadnji nesreci, med drugim.

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... I’ve been saying since 2010 that flag discipline is deteriorating, and it’s deteriorating fast. And no one is making properly vigorous efforts to re-establish it.

At every F1 drivers briefing, the drivers hound Charlie for a number – “how fast can i go under yellows?” or “how fast under double yellows?”. Or even, “will I be penalised if I do 0.2 sec less than the last time thru that sector…”

THEY’RE MISSING THE POINT. AND BECAUSE WE’RE NOT INSISTING ENOUGH ON THE RIGHT ANSWER, BAD THINGS HAPPEN.

The point is that the speed that’s appropriate under double yellows is variable. It’s not a speed limit, it’s a warning. Just ahead you might have nowhere to go. Or, just ahead someone’s uncle, brother, father is pushing one of your colleague’s cars off the circuit (remember the marshal whose legs you broke in Monaco Pastor? When you kept your foot in it through double yellows into Casino? I do).

I bet that the “appropriate” speed through T6-7 Sunday was probably something like 80-100 km/h – something like pit lane speed. Had drivers done that, the absurdity would have rapidly become apparent, and race control would have had little choice but to deploy the SC.

Disrespect for flag discipline is not a minor issue. It kills and injures people. If flags are respected, things get remarkably safer. If these flags had been respected, it is hard to imagine this accident happening, at least with this kind of energy...

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Uporabnik ametist pravi:
Na spodnji povezavi si lahko ogledate telemetrijo oz. hitrost vozil v Dunlop zavoju, od Sutilove nesreč pa do Bianchi-jeve nesreče. Lepo se vidi, da je v predhodnem krogu vozil na mestu izleta s hitrostjo 217km/h vozil je tik pred Sutilom, v naslednjem krogu, ko se pripeti nesreča pa je vozi pod dvojnim rumenim zastavam na istem mestu s hitrostjo 210km/h.
http://tinypic.com/player.php?v=30rmgp5&s=8#.VDUckPl_vIq

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Uporabnik darjan pravi:
Duple rumene pomenijo: while two waved yellow flags at the same post means that drivers must slow down and be prepared to stop if necessary.

Ustavit se pri 200kmh v dežju je tudi za f1 zalogaj, tako da po tem kriteriju so vsi vozili prehitro. Bolj dosledno bi jih morali kaznovati za kršenje tega pravila.

Pri nas je tudi pravilo, na cestah, da varnostna razdalja pomeni nekaj relativnega in se komot kaznuje voznike, čeprav ni točno opredeljeno s številko.

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Uporabnik darjan pravi:
Duple rumene pomenijo: while two waved yellow flags at the same post means that drivers must slow down and be prepared to stop if necessary.

Ustavit se pri 200kmh v dežju je tudi za f1 zalogaj, tako da po tem kriteriju so vsi vozili prehitro. Bolj dosledno bi jih morali kaznovati za kršenje tega pravila.

Pri nas je tudi pravilo, na cestah, da varnostna razdalja pomeni nekaj relativnega in se komot kaznuje voznike, čeprav ni točno opredeljeno s številko.

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