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hgard

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22. jul 2007
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Zanika pa krivdo, torej je delal po naročilu nekoga, bil je le orodje... imam sicer neke svoje domneve kdo je v ozadju pa raje ne bom zaenkrat.

Benedikt?
 

stieber

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No, jaz pa tega ne razumem...hkrati je priznal, da je kriv in zanikal krivdo? Spet kak zanič prevod iz angleščine?
 

tado

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Priznal, da je storil dejanje, ne pa da je za njega tudi kriv ( da je prišlo do napada ).
 
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Izbrisan uporabnik #488

Priznal, da je kriv za dejanje = da ga je izvršil, ne pa da je zanj odgovoren. To bo kar težko razumeti nekaterim.

primer pri nas:

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Prisiljenost

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Dejanje, ki je bilo storjeno pod vplivom sile, ki se ji storilec ni mogel upreti, ni kaznivo dejanje.

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Nekdo ga je vodil, prisilil, lahko pa je šlo tudi za kaj drugega (neprištevnost ipd), kar je vplivalo, da svojih dejanj ni imel pod oblastjo.
 

stieber

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ja še vedno ne razumem, očitno sem glup...kdo je pa kriv, če ne on? A je kdo drug prožil bombe in streljal? Mogoče ima sostorilce, ampak kriv je pa po moje (tudi) on...
 

eazy

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aha, torej trdi, da je bil prisiljen v to?

tik tak tik tak
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uuu

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Priznal je dejanja, ki pa po njegovi interpretaciji niso nič slabega.

Sam sebe vidi kot junaka in se zato ne čuti krivega, čeprav je storil po njegovem prepričanju nekaj "potrebnega".
Kriv si le, če storiš kaj slabega. Nisi kriv, če storiš nekaj dobrega (kar lahko hkrati tudi priznaš).

Svojih dejanj on v svojem zblojenem umu ne smatra za slaba, zato se ne počuti krivega, torej, da bi storil karkoli slabega.
 

alexx_

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11. maj 2007
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Policija je pojasnila, da posebne enote potrebujejo nekaj časa, da pridejo na prizorišče, branil pa je tudi odločitev, da so jih poslali z avtomobili, in ne s helikopterji, saj naj bi bila pot po cesti hitrejša. Helikopter bi namreč moral prileteti iz oporišča in to bi po besedah policije vzelo več časa.

vir: rtvslo, link v mojem postu visje
 

alexx_

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Uporabnik stieber pravi:
Lahko bi ga pa ustrelili kar s 120 mm topom s trenutno fugasno granato ali pa preluknjali s podkalibrskim izstrelkom iz tungstena, ampak kot si verujetno že dojel, v tistem trenutku ni bilo v bližini primernag orožja s primerno izurjenim strelcem.

kaj pa ce bi kar takticno nuklearno nanj vrgli? mater si duhovit
 

Matey

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Uporabnik uuu pravi:
Priznal je dejanja, ki pa po njegovi interpretaciji niso nič slabega.

Sam sebe vidi kot junaka in se zato ne čuti krivega, čeprav je storil po njegovem prepričanju nekaj "potrebnega".
Kriv si le, če storiš kaj slabega. Nisi kriv, če storiš nekaj dobrega (kar lahko hkrati tudi priznaš).

Svojih dejanj on v svojem zblojenem umu ne smatra za slaba, zato se ne počuti krivega, torej, da bi storil karkoli slabega.

ali pa če je dejal, da se zaveda grozljivosti svojih dejanj, ampak so se mu zdela nujno potrebna za doseganje višjih ciljev. oziroma nekaj v takem smislu. torej se zaveda da ni ravno lepo pobijati 14-18let stare "gobe", ki vase vpijajo ideje svojih voditeljev.
 

uuu

Fizikalc
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Pri psihopatu ne moreš tehtati z enakim metrom, kot pri normalnem osebku.

Kar tebi zgleda protislovno, je za njega lahko povsem normalno in sprejemljivo.
 

Matey

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res ne moreš imeti enakih meril a hotel sem samo povedati, da sem nekje zasledil njegovo izjavo, v kateri razlaga, da se zaveda kako grozljiva dejanja je storil. ali je pa to potem normalno, sprejemljivo itd. je pa že druga stvar....
 

uuu

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Razcepljena osebnost.
En del njega ve, da je dejanje gnusno, vendar prevlada tisti del njega, ki mu pravi, da to mora storiti, ker da je tako prav ..
 

erikson

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Očitno se je vsa jeza začela z dogodkom, ko je bil star 16 let:


15 years – (when I was 15, time: 20.00) - Attempted robbery by Pakistani gang outside a concert. Luckily for me I knew a hardcore Pakistani thug (from the Pakistani A gang in Oslo) who told them I was under his protection. There have been approximately 10 other threatening situations where me and my friends were unharmed.

16 years – (Time: 16.30) - Assault – an older and much stronger/bigger Pakistani hit me without provocation in front of Majorstuenhuset. Apparently, he wanted to subdue me in front of my “friend” Arsalan who apparently had told him to do it. This concluded, for my part, my friendship with him and I re-connected with my old friends after this incident. However, this restricted my territorial freedoms, as I was no longer under the protection of the Oslo Ummah. From now on we would have to arm ourselves whenever we went to parties in case Muslim gangs showed up and we usually chose to stay in our neighbourhoods’ on Oslo West.

17 years – (Time: 01.30) - Attempted assault and robbery - Us 2, them 3: 2 Pakistanis and 1 wannabe-Pakistani. We were actually heading home after being on the same party together. The wannabe-Pakistani suddenly turned on me without provocation and rallied the other two. Me and my friend had to run as we were unarmed at the time.

17 years – (Time: 23.30) - Assault and attempted robbery - Us 10, them 12 Moroccans. Location Tåsen, Oslo. They were robbing (collecting Jizya) and beating local kafr/Norwegian kids at Tåsen center, they had done this on numerous occasions. They didn’t live there but travelled to Tåsen from a Muslim enclave on Oslo East. I was at a party on Tåsen when we heard they had just beaten one of my friends younger brothers. We went there to chase them away from the neighbourhood. They had weapons, we had weapons. I was hit with a billiard pool in the head. Result of the fight: we made a deal with them, they promised they would never return and harass the Tåsen youngsters again.

18 years – (Time: 01.00) - Assault by Pakistani gang outside a club. A friend of mine was attacked without provocation by a gang of 6. I told him to run as they outnumbered us. Result: broken nose.

19 years – (Time: 02.00) - Attempted robbery by two Pakistanis at a bar. I had my friends nearby so I told them to [censored] off or I we would bash their faces in (an effective psychological deterrent, most Pakistani thugs have a Neanderthal mentality so to show
weakness will only invite to abuse etc;p). Pakistanis are usually a lot more cowardly than Northern African Muslims though (I wouldn’t have tried that strategy on Moroccans’).

20 years – (Time: 22.00) - Threats and attempted assault - Us 3, them 4. Me and two friends were about to order at Burger King when a Norwegian girl crossed the food queue. As she went by she pushed me, saying; “MOVE, YOU PIECE OF SHIT!. Needless to say, I was very surprised and I managed to stutter the words; “suck my dick, bitch”, while perplexed. She ran over to her friends, 4 Moroccans’ sitting at a corner and just waiting to pick a fight… They approached me (I was alone at the time) and told me they were going to “[censored] me up severely” as soon as I left Burger King. I had tear gas on me, as I always have when going out late. However, I decided to go with the “deterrent strategy”, so I called my two friends, Erling, a relatively small adopted Columbian, and his friend a relatively big Christian Ugandan. Having established my deterrent, and obviously not interested in fighting these savages (as is my policy with all Muslim bullies under normal circumstances), I went ahead and started negotiating, offering the “Muslim whore” an apology. End result was, we left as a group and had the Muslims follow us until we managed to lose them. The most annoying things about the encounter is that you really can’t control when you bump into them again. Luckily, a majority of Muslim savages like them live on the East side of town.

21 years – (Time: 01.30) - Attempted assault and robbery - Us 4, them 4. Me and my best friends; Peter, Marius and Martin were out clubbing and drinking. This was actually the first time I smoked (normal cigarettes) and I fainted for a few seconds outside a store not far from the club. This was the first and only time I have fainted in my life btw, lol. Apparently, 4 Albanian Muslims saw this incident and figured I would make an easy target. All 4 of them approached me and tried to rob me. At that time my friends just arrived and they started to threaten them as well as one of them pulled out a knife. Obviously, we didn’t want to fight these savages, so we said we would take out some cash for them in an ATM in the nearby Burger King. We called the police as soon as we entered. However, this was Saturday night so we had no luck getting a response. We ordered some food and stayed at Burger King for a little more than an hour, at which point the Muslim savages had left (probably busy robbing other victims).
 

stein

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"From now on we would have to arm ourselves whenever we went to parties"

A je to bilo na varnem Norveškem???

Zgleda kot zgodba iz neke narko kriminalke.
 

eazy

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"From now on we would have to arm ourselves whenever we went to parties"

A je to bilo na varnem Norveškem???

Zgleda kot zgodba iz neke narko kriminalke.

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