Covid-19 Cepiva

KarEn

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Mah ne dam... to je po spominu... ne da se mi dokazovat da imam večjega kot ti,... evo ti na slovenski uradni spletni strain (do 95%, čisto spodaj):
 

Ytbnd

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Novo, prilagojeno cepivo kaže, da je štirikrat bolj učinkovito, kot je bilo prejšnje, se je pa kljub temu za zdaj za četrti odmerek odločilo le tri odstotke Slovencev in slabih osem odstotkov Evropejcev.
 

AndY1

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More than 18 million people were injured so badly by their first COVID shot from Pfizer or Moderna that they had to go to the hospital. That’s according to the CDC’s own internal data, which a court just ordered the federal agency to release to a watchdog group.

Instead of alerting the public to the incredible dangers of these shots and completely shutting down Joe Biden’s mass vaccination mandates, the CDC covered up the info until it was forced to release. Everyone in a position of authority at the CDC should be fired for this. What good is a “public health” agency if it fails to alert the public that 8% of vaccine recipients are being hospitalized?


A study published in June of 2021 by the National Institutes of Health – where Tony Fauci works – found that the hospitalization rate from COVID-19 for the total population was 2.1%. If you are under the age of 40, the hospitalization rate from COVID-19 is just 0.4%.

For the shots, the hospitalization rate has been 8%.

This means that:

YOU ARE 4 TIMES AS LIKELY TO BE HOSPITALIZED BY THE VACCINES THAN BY COVID ITSELF, NO MATTER WHAT AGE GROUP YOU ARE IN.

YOU ARE 20 TIMES AS LIKELY TO BE HOSPITALIZED BY THE SHOTS IF YOU ARE UNDER AGE 40 THAN BY COVID ITSELF.

You can read the NIH-published study HERE.
 
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AndY1, a ti prebereš, kaj sploh prilimaš?

For the shots, the hospitalization rate has been 8%.

To pomeni, da če delaš v firmi s 25 zaposlenimi in so se šli vsi cepit, bosta dve osebi hospitalizirani. Sedaj se pa ozri okoli, poglej po tvoji firmi, ženini firmi (da boš imel dovolj reprezentativen vzorec) in reci, da zagotovo ti podatki držijo.

V Sloveniji je bilo okoli 1,2 mio ljudi cepljenih, kar po teh "podatkih" pomeni, da bi moralo biti ~ 100.000 Slovencev hospitaliziranih zaradi tega. A si ti sploh predstavljaš, kaj pomenijo te številke?

You can read the NIH-published study HERE.

Priložena študija govori samo o tem, koliko COVID-19 obolelih je hospitaliziranih, o cepljenih ni podatka (How Many SARS-CoV-2-Infected People Require Hospitalization? Using Random Sample Testing to Better Inform Preparedness Efforts)
YOU ARE 4 TIMES AS LIKELY TO BE HOSPITALIZED BY THE VACCINES THAN BY COVID ITSELF, NO MATTER WHAT AGE GROUP YOU ARE IN.
YOU ARE 20 TIMES AS LIKELY TO BE HOSPITALIZED BY THE SHOTS IF YOU ARE UNDER AGE 40 THAN BY COVID ITSELF.

Teh citiranih podatkov ni v tej študiji.
 
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AndY1

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AndY1, a ti prebereš, kaj sploh prilimaš?

For the shots, the hospitalization rate has been 8%.

To pomeni, da če delaš v firmi s 25 zaposlenimi in so se šli vsi cepit, bosta dve osebi hospitalizirani. Sedaj se pa ozri okoli, poglej po tvoji firmi, ženini firmi (da boš imel dovolj reprezentativen vzorec) in reci, da zagotovo ti podatki držijo.

V Sloveniji je bilo okoli 1,2 mio ljudi cepljenih, kar po teh "podatkih" pomeni, da bi moralo biti ~ 100.000 Slovencev hospitaliziranih zaradi tega. A si ti sploh predstavljaš, kaj pomenijo te številke?

You can read the NIH-published study HERE.

Priložena študija govori samo o tem, koliko COVID-19 obolelih je hospitaliziranih, o cepljenih ni podatka (How Many SARS-CoV-2-Infected People Require Hospitalization? Using Random Sample Testing to Better Inform Preparedness Efforts)
YOU ARE 4 TIMES AS LIKELY TO BE HOSPITALIZED BY THE VACCINES THAN BY COVID ITSELF, NO MATTER WHAT AGE GROUP YOU ARE IN.
YOU ARE 20 TIMES AS LIKELY TO BE HOSPITALIZED BY THE SHOTS IF YOU ARE UNDER AGE 40 THAN BY COVID ITSELF.

Teh citiranih podatkov ni v tej študiji.

More than 18 million people were injured so badly by their first COVID shot from Pfizer or Moderna that they had to go to the hospital. That’s according to the CDC’s own internal data, which a court just ordered the federal agency to release to a watchdog group.
 
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For the shots, the hospitalization rate has been 8%.

This means that:

YOU ARE 4 TIMES AS LIKELY TO BE HOSPITALIZED BY THE VACCINES THAN BY COVID ITSELF, NO MATTER WHAT AGE GROUP YOU ARE IN.

YOU ARE 20 TIMES AS LIKELY TO BE HOSPITALIZED BY THE SHOTS IF YOU ARE UNDER AGE 40 THAN BY COVID ITSELF.

You can read the NIH-published study HERE.
Prosim, odgovori vsaj na to:

Koliko ljudi poznaš, kateri so po cepljenju končali v bolnici? Če imaš 100 znancev/sorodnikov/sodealvcev je to že 8 ljudi.


Ker limaš neke "raziskave" katere se ovrže že če se pogleda okoli sebe. Ko se te sooči z tem pa izgineš in čez par dni že lepiš neke nove "raziskave" katere soupadajo s tvojo agendo, da so cepiva nevarna.
 

AndY1

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Prosim, odgovori vsaj na to:

Koliko ljudi poznaš, kateri so po cepljenju končali v bolnici? Če imaš 100 znancev/sorodnikov/sodealvcev je to že 8 ljudi.


Ker limaš neke "raziskave" katere se ovrže že če se pogleda okoli sebe. Ko se te sooči z tem pa izgineš in čez par dni že lepiš neke nove "raziskave" katere soupadajo s tvojo agendo, da so cepiva nevarna.
Poznam 2, ki sta umrla. En je moj bivsi sosed, ki ga je infarkt, drugi je pa mama od znancev, ki je umrla ponoci v spanju prvo noc po cepljenju.
 
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Poznam 2, ki sta umrla. En je moj bivsi sosed, ki ga je infarkt, drugi je pa mama od znancev, ki je umrla ponoci v spanju prvo noc po cepljenju.

Če so res umrli zaradi cepiva pomeni, da v življenju poznaš samo 25 ljudi glede na tvojo prilepljeno raziskavo. Verjetno jih ne, in si ravnokar ovrgel raziskavo.
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Jaz od par sto ljudi nisem slišal za nobenega. Par jih je dobilo visoko vročino večer po cepljenju, en je pa dobil simptome covida po cepljeju, je bil en teden na bolovanju. V bolnišnici ni pristal nihče, umrl ni nihče.

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Zaradi covida pa jih poznam ogromno, kateri so končali v bolnici (na respiratorju sicer nihče). Sicer zaradi zgodnjih variant pred cepljenjem. Sedaj zaradi omikrona ne poznam nobenega, kateri bi imel huje kot gripo.
 

AndY1

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Nekdo mi je nekoc trdil, da moja informacija, da je FDA v vecini financirana s strani farmacije, ne drzi.

https://www.bmj.com/content/377/bmj.o1538.full

US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) 1992, Prescription Drug User Fee Act, allowing industry to fund the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) directly through “user fees” Net PDUFA fees collected $29m in 1993 $884m in 2016 (65% of budget)
FDA, 9 out of 10 of its past commissioners between 2006 and 2019 went on to secure roles linked with pharmaceutical companies

European Medicines Agency (EMA) Industry fees funded 20% European Medicines Agency (EMA), in 1995 By 2010, 75% Today, 89%

UK
Medicines and Healthcare Products Regulatory Agency (MHRA) 86% of funding from Pharmaceutical Industry

Australia
Proportion of TGA budget derived from industry, 96%

WHO funding
The second-largest funder is the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, which provides 9.8% of the WHO's funds

 

luka51

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More than 18 million people were injured so badly by their first COVID shot from Pfizer or Moderna that they had to go to the hospital. That’s according to the CDC’s own internal data, which a court just ordered the federal agency to release to a watchdog group.
On ti ni reko za še en citat, ampak da sam razmisli.
 

Ytbnd

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Nekdo mi je nekoc trdil, da moja informacija, da je FDA v vecini financirana s strani farmacije, ne drzi.

https://www.bmj.com/content/377/bmj.o1538.full

US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) 1992, Prescription Drug User Fee Act, allowing industry to fund the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) directly through “user fees” Net PDUFA fees collected $29m in 1993 $884m in 2016 (65% of budget)
FDA, 9 out of 10 of its past commissioners between 2006 and 2019 went on to secure roles linked with pharmaceutical companies

European Medicines Agency (EMA) Industry fees funded 20% European Medicines Agency (EMA), in 1995 By 2010, 75% Today, 89%

UK
Medicines and Healthcare Products Regulatory Agency (MHRA) 86% of funding from Pharmaceutical Industry

Australia
Proportion of TGA budget derived from industry, 96%

WHO funding
The second-largest funder is the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, which provides 9.8% of the WHO's funds

Zanimivo da za vsako neumost se najde denar, le za neodvisno financiranje zgornjih ustanov ne.
 

AndY1

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"trdijo, da so prvi proučili, kako ponovne okužbe povečujejo tveganje za zdravstvene težave in dolgi covid.". :valjamse:

A lahko še študijo do dolga gripa, da bi lahko imeli s čim primerjat. :aplauz: Verjamem, da se bo CLIO15 potrudil in to študijo prilepil. Drugače je to tako, kot bi rekel, da je komar ful nevaren, če te piči, ostali piki niso pomembni in jih ne bomo obravnavali, ampak komar je pa yeba.