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nemenabijat

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Veš kaj... Zeeeh.

Mojster enači odvoz otrok iz strani agresorske države in na drugi strani sprejem bežečih...
Pol pa se pojavis in cvilis brez repa in glave. Kje torej tebi stojimo na žulju?
Prodajajo vam neke zgodbe in prižigate se kot šibice. Resnica je pa daleč stran od ene in druge strani. In ja, prižigajte se dalje.:bonk:
 

mirsi

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ja, vsi mednarodni preiskovalci in sodice v haggu nam prodaja neke zgodbice o otrocih... kr tko, k nimajo drugega dela.
Dej kaj več povej o teh mednarodnih opazovalcih. Kdo so bili, iz kje, kakšne konkretne dokaze so dobili... ali so to šli v Rusijo preiskovat zadevo in pobirat dokazo gradivo, al je za obtožbo dovolj, delo od doma s kavča, pa dovolj navodila, ki so jih prejeli od politike?

A tisto Sadamovo orožje za množično uničevanje so že našli?
 
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AndY1

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ja, vsi mednarodni preiskovalci in sodice v haggu nam prodaja neke zgodbice o otrocih... kr tko, k nimajo drugega dela.

Glede na to, da niti Ukrajina niti Rusija nista pristopnici ICCju, ne vidim od kje ICCju jurisdikcija.

Does it have legal authority?​

The ICC can prosecute for crimes committed in member countries and by citizens of member nations who commit crimes elsewhere.

 

msenjur

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Glede na to, da niti Ukrajina niti Rusija nista pristopnici ICCju, ne vidim od kje ICCju jurisdikcija.

Does it have legal authority?​

The ICC can prosecute for crimes committed in member countries and by citizens of member nations who commit crimes elsewhere.


a je to tema o kateri sem govoril?
 

resnica

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Glede na to, da niti Ukrajina niti Rusija nista pristopnici ICCju, ne vidim od kje ICCju jurisdikcija.

Does it have legal authority?​

The ICC can prosecute for crimes committed in member countries and by citizens of member nations who commit crimes elsewhere.

Še en polpismen mednarodni pravnik!
  • the crimes were referred to the ICC Prosecutor by the United Nations Security Council (UNSC) pursuant to a resolution adopted under chapter VII of the UN charter
  • As of 17 July 2018, a situation in which an act of aggression would appear to have occurred could be referred to the Court by the Security Council, acting under Chapter VII of the United Nations Charter, irrespective as to whether it involves States Parties or non-States Parties.
 

AndY1

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Še en polpismen mednarodni pravnik!
  • the crimes were referred to the ICC Prosecutor by the United Nations Security Council (UNSC) pursuant to a resolution adopted under chapter VII of the UN charter
  • As of 17 July 2018, a situation in which an act of aggression would appear to have occurred could be referred to the Court by the Security Council, acting under Chapter VII of the United Nations Charter, irrespective as to whether it involves States Parties or non-States Parties.

Rusija je stalna clanica UNSC-ja s pravico veta.
Imas kaksen vir s katerim lahko tole podpres?
 

sad

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Nima veze. Škoda denarja in resoursov, itak se bo Putin stegnil, preden bo to sploh aktualno. Upam.
 

resnica

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Dej kaj več povej o teh mednarodnih opazovalcih. Kdo so bili, iz kje, kakšne konkretne dokaze so dobili... ali so to šli v Rusijo preiskovat zadevo in pobirat dokazo gradivo, al je za obtožbo dovolj, delo od doma s kavča, pa dovolj navodila, ki so jih prejeli od politike?

A tisto Sadamovo orožje za množično uničevanje so že našli?
Kako naj te človek jemlje resno, če neargumentirano nakladaš.
 

msenjur

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seveda ima veze. da se ve, kaksne svinjarije so zganjali. to bojo se preiskoval in verjetno nekaj otrok tud vrnili starsem oz. sorodnikom.
 

AndY1

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Vir je v tvojem linku

Vsak konketni primer mora biti referiran s strani UNSC-ja, kar je pa prakticno nemogoce, da bi se zgodilo.
ICC pa ima jurisdikcijo le v drzavah podpisnicah pristopa, cesar pa niti Ukrajina niti Rusija nista.

Jurisdiction​

The Court may exercise jurisdiction in a situation where genocide, crimes against humanity or war crimes were committed on or after 1 July 2002 and:

  • the crimes were committed by a State Party national, or in the territory of a State Party, or in a State that has accepted the jurisdiction of the Court; or
  • the crimes were referred to the ICC Prosecutor by the United Nations Security Council (UNSC) pursuant to a resolution adopted under chapter VII of the UN charter.
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