Tesla in slovenci

B81

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Evo kak komentar? Na 24ur je clanek.

Saj verjetno vsi tako delajo in super da je prisla zgodba ven.
Fakin barabe izkoriscevalske.
 

SouthPark

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Itak delajo vsi enako in to že desetletja, vsi naši in ''naši'' gredo delat s turistično viso, vsi delajo za par € na uro, ostalo pa na roke. En je pač imel jajca tožit.
 

AndY1

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https://www.teslamotors.com/bl...-teslas-factory

Response to Mercury News article, entitled “The Hidden Workforce Expanding Tesla’s Factory”

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The Tesla Team May 16, 2016

At Tesla, we aspire to operate on the principles of hard work and exceptional performance, but always tempered by fairness, justice and kindness. There are times when mistakes are made, but those are the standards to which we hold ourselves. With respect to the person at the center of this weekend’s article in the Mercury News, those standards were not met. We are taking action to address this individual's situation and to put in place additional oversight to ensure that our workplace rules are followed even by sub-subcontractors to prevent such a thing from happening again.

Gregor Lesnik was brought to the Tesla factory by a company called ISM Vuzem, a sub-contractor brought in by Eisenmann, the firm that we hired to construct our new, high-volume paint shop. We contracted with Eisenmann for the simple reason that we do not know how to build paint shops and they are regarded as one of the best, if not the best, in the world. In our dealings with them, we have found them to be an excellent company, run by good people.

The article describes how Mr. Lesnik came to this country, the conditions under which Vuzem employed him and others to do their work, and how Mr. Lesnik ended up being injured while on the job. Assuming the article is correct, we need to do right by Mr. Lesnik and his colleagues from Vuzem. This is not a legal issue, it is a moral issue. As far as the law goes, Tesla did everything correctly. We hired a contractor to do a turnkey project at our factory and, as we always do in these situations, contractually obligated our contractor to comply with all laws in bringing in the resources they felt were needed to do the job.

Regarding the accident that resulted in Mr. Lesnik being injured, Cal/OSHA (the government regulator that investigates workplace accidents like these) came to our factory, investigated the incident and found that Tesla was not responsible. When Mr. Lesnik brought a workers compensation case, Tesla was dismissed from the case because the judge concluded that we had no legal responsibility for what occurred.

All of that is fine legally, but there is a larger point. Morally, we need to give Mr. Lesnik the benefit of the doubt and we need to take care of him. We will make sure this happens. We do not condone people coming to work at a Tesla facility, whether they work for us, one of our contractors or even a sub-subcontractor, under the circumstances described in the article. If Mr. Lesnik or his colleagues were really being paid $5 an hour, that is totally unacceptable. Tesla is one of the highest paying hourly employers in the US automotive industry. We do this out of choice, because we think it is right. Nobody is making us do so.

Tesla will be working with Eisenmann and Vuzem to investigate this thoroughly. If the claims are true, Tesla will take action to ensure that the right thing happens and all are treated fairly.

Creating a new car company is extremely difficult and fraught with risk, but we will never be a company that by our action does, or by our inaction allows, the wrong thing to happen just to save money.
 

sajkek

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Kriv je naročnik, ki zahteva najnižjo ceno. Da lahko dobiš posel greš do podna in naprej, potem se dogajajo te zgodbe. Simple.
 

B81

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Tesla ni nic kriva tu, nemec je zasluzil najvec, potem pa slovenec. Nemec seveda ne pozna ljudi, pozna pa slovenca, ki pozna delavce.
Res ni normalno da delave dobi recimo 20% od pravega placila, to pa bi morala drzava, kjer se dela, kontrolirat bemti.
 

Gavran

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Kriv je naročnik, ki zahteva najnižjo ceno. Da lahko dobiš posel greš do podna in naprej, potem se dogajajo te zgodbe. Simple.

Bedarija, če se izvajalec ne bi vnaprej odločil za kršenje vseh norm, niti ponudbe ne bi oddal.
 

SouthPark

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Tesla ni nic kriva tu, nemec je zasluzil najvec, potem pa slovenec. Nemec seveda ne pozna ljudi, pozna pa slovenca, ki pozna delavce.
Res ni normalno da delave dobi recimo 20% od pravega placila, to pa bi morala drzava, kjer se dela, kontrolirat bemti.
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Mi je pravil kolega, ki je delal večkrat v ZDA, kak so dobili plačano glede na nacionalnost, Nemci največ, potem naši, potem pa južno in vzhodno od nas skoz manj, so našim zabičali, da ne smejo nikoli povedat koliko dobijo, ker bi se Hrvati, Srbi, Poljaki etc. zbunili
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LeQuack

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Sicer sam dvomim, da je Tesla tukaj kaj dosti kriva, oni so najbrž Nemško firmo dobro plačali, ker so hoteli imeti strokovnjake. Nemci so že bolj Balkanci in so najeli južnjaško firmo, da si ne mažejo preveč rok. Južnjaške firme pa itak vsak dan vidimo kako delujejo. Sram bi moralo biti kvečjemu Nemca, da gredo najet tako nategovalsko firmo, ne pa Teslo, ki so želeli Nemško kvaliteto.
 

SouthPark

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Kvaliteto so dobili nemško, brez skrbi, a misliš, da v nemških firmah pa Nemci delajo fizična dela?
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Američani pač rabijo za taka občasna naročila večje število delavcev in jih najamejo pri raznih agencijah in podjetjih. Ameriška firma plača nemški (zmišljujem si) 50€ na uro za delavca, ti najamejo delavce za 40€ na uro, slovenski delodajalec pa od teh 40 lahko da kvečjemu 15€ delavcu, ker polovica gre za davke, nekaj pa seveda tudi naš delodajalec hoče zase, ker ne dela pro bono.
 
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Izbrisan uporabnik #9334

V poslovnem svetu so začeli omenjati moralo in načela?
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Neverjetno, (
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Verjamem pa, da Tesla cilja tako visoko, da si res ne želi umazanega imena.
 

LeQuack

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Tesla in Elon Musk so pač trenutno good guys in si nočejo mazat imena, Slovenia pa je Eastern Europe oziroma bad guys. Že preveč blizu Rusije.
 

SouthPark

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Menda bi iz mehike prej tja prisli kot iz slovenije
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Mah, preveč neizobraženega kadra. Če naši na veliko v Mehiko hodijo delat, pa ne gredo dol obirat kaktusov. Nemški firmi je pa tudi lažje najt ljudi v EU, tudi lažje delajo z njimi, imajo izkušnje z njimi...
 

PIC

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Overseas contractors are shipping workers from impoverished countries to American factories.

Samo toliko, da se znamo pozicionirat v svetu
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LP,
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