Struženje diskov na avtu - brez demontaže, KJE?

lost1

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19. jul 2007
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Ima kdo kakšen kontakt kje v LJ imajo to,pa kakšna je cena? Pogoj je tudi tak,da ima ta "stružnica" svoj pogon za disk,saj ga avto nima na teh kolesih
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Opcija da se jih postruzi na stružnici odpade, diski so sicer novi,ampak bi jih bilo potrebno dati skozi to stružnico.
 

dotore

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18. avg 2007
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A da je LJ je pogoj?
Če to ni pogoj in ti ni problem do ene male vasice v okolici NMja, potem ti lahko dam cifro. Zadeva je uradna in ne nek kozolec varijanta.
Zrihtano pa tudi tako kot je treba.
lp
 

Kamele0N

YUGOslovanski mehanik Dmitri Mendeleev
23. jul 2008
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Pogoj je tudi tak,da ima ta "stružnica" svoj pogon za disk,saj ga avto nima na teh kolesih
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Opcija da se jih postruzi na stružnici odpade, diski so sicer novi,ampak bi jih bilo potrebno dati skozi to stružnico.

Plus brez demontaže

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Kamele0N

YUGOslovanski mehanik Dmitri Mendeleev
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Uporabnik lost1 pravi:
Pogoj je tudi tak,da ima ta "stružnica" svoj pogon za disk,saj ga avto nima na teh kolesih
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Ok "prenosna" stružnica na sistem bormašine in 2h nožkov ampak.......kako če jih avto nima na pestu
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Uporabnik lost1 pravi:Opcija da se jih postruzi na stružnici odpade, diski so sicer novi,ampak bi jih bilo potrebno dati skozi to stružnico.

Ok se prav ne gre na prenosni stružnici.........ne sme na fiksni stružnici ( glej drugi pogoj)

3 pogoj.....to se mora narest brez demontaže diskov (glej naslov teme)

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Kamele0N

YUGOslovanski mehanik Dmitri Mendeleev
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Poznam.......sam napisal je pa tko dvoumno k da bi mel rad postružene diske brez struženja
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corsol

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ne me držat za besedo ,ker je kar nekaj let od tega in sem lahko tud kaj pomešal, ampak se mi zdi da sem nekoč videl pripravo za struženje diskov v pogonu na Toyota servisu v LJ(VIČ)
 
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lost1

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KSZ:


Ja če se le da bi bilo super da je to v LJ,lahko pa tudi na ZS številko od mojstra v NM pa se v skrajni sili zapele tja.. Glede ostalega pa tistmu ki ve kaj sprasujem,je točno jasno kaj iscem.
 

darjan

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Koliko pa kaj stane ta hec in je možno "s prostim" očesom ugotovit, če je disk zvit?
 

sajkek

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popričanju mehanikov ki to počnejo, je to bolj za silo varianta, zelo težko naredit tako kot mora bit.
 

lost1

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popričanju mehanikov ki to počnejo, je to bolj za silo varianta, zelo težko naredit tako kot mora bit.

Pa si ti prebral zakaj se to dela? Proizvajalec diskov priporoča to,ravno zato da je disk "v nulo" zmontiran na avto.
 

miha72

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Uporabnik sajkek pravi:
popričanju mehanikov ki to počnejo, je to bolj za silo varianta, zelo težko naredit tako kot mora bit.

Pa si ti prebral zakaj se to dela? Proizvajalec diskov priporoča to,ravno zato da je disk "v nulo" zmontiran na avto.

Te t.i. stružnice so vse prej kot ena stabilna in masivna stružnica. Jaz osebno tega ne bi delal na avtu. . Pri montaži pa je seveda potrebno biti pozoren, da so vsa ležišča dobro očiščena in taka kot morajo biti.
 

SpidiGonzalez

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Jaz tudi nebi tega delal na avtu....če opletajo novi diski je prej kaj drugega hin kot da so diski potrebni struženja....
 

Matey

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6. sep 2007
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ksz...

Kje oz. kako si pa sploh kaj na boljšem, če izvajaš to na diskih, ki so še na avtu? Saj moraš v vsakem primeru podret bolj ali manj vse, zakaj nebi potem še diska snel dol, ni tako (ali se pač pusti čeljusti gor?)? 1 minuta dela več... razen, če so zapečeni....
 

lost1

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kolikor sem zastopil se gre tukaj za montažo. torej novi diski zmontirani in daš še drejponk zravn da je res vse natančno...

drži lost1?

Bravo
 

lost1

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ksz...

Kje oz. kako si pa sploh kaj na boljšem, če izvajaš to na diskih, ki so še na avtu? Saj moraš v vsakem primeru podret bolj ali manj vse, zakaj nebi potem še diska snel dol, ni tako (ali se pač pusti čeljusti gor?)? 1 minuta dela več... razen, če so zapečeni....


Sej ni fora v demontazi, je lažje demontirati pa vrzt na stacionarno stružnico.


Tole je en del C/P

5. Intermittent noises from rotors or rotor vibration
If sport rotors are not checked for runout, driving without even applying brakes will exhibit a clicking noise on a “Once-per-rev” of the wheel basis. If you encounter this, especially early after having rotors installed return them to the service shop and have them checked for runout. Recommendations for maximum permissible runout vary from 0.001 to 0.002 inches on most European cars to 0.003 to 0.006 on larger USA Trucks and SUV’s. Figures above these are not only unacceptable but they will cause brake vibration after a period of 3000 to 4000 miles. (Read below in Blue please) which is not grounds for warranty. Mounting rotors on dirt or rust and scale covered hubs or excessive use of mounting greases and most often incorrect tightening of rotors from first install are the common reasons for excess runout. If your installer knows his job he will hand tighten the rotor studs in a diagonal fashion with gradually increasing torques by hand and final tighten with a TORQUE wrench and ideally you wont even see or hear an air gun being used. Guns (including air guns) are for cowboys and are often used by them.
Why do rotors suffer vibration after 3000-4000 miles and how can EBC be so precise in this mileage estimate, surely it cannot be the same for every car???????? … this is a common question.
The reason the mileage is more or less the same for every car where vibration occurs is that the problem develops OFF BRAKE or when you are driving without applying the brake. The more freeway driving you do the more easily this can occur. The excess runout mentioned above caused in 90% of the cases by bad fitting and not checking for runout (and the other 10% due to a hub not running true such a car that has impacted a curb at some time) … causes the pad to “Kiss” the rotor gently each revolution of the wheel as you drive. After the above mileage period the pads wear a microscopic thin spot on the rotor and a condition known as DTV occurs. This DTV (Disc Thickness Variation) causes the brake to pulse. A small amount of runout itself does NOT cause vibration but the tiniest amount of DTV does cause vibration. That is why when a rotor is not running true the car does not exhibit vibration in the first few miles and this explains how it shows up later (3000-4000 miles).
How can I cure this vibration problem ??????
Rotors will need to be turned at a machine shop or brake fitting center or replaced. EBC sport grooved rotors can be turned with good results on standard AAMCO brake lathes. If too badly scored or worn some rotors will have to be replaced. New pads will ALWAYS be needed.
Before taking your car to the shop, check if the vibration is coming from the front or the rear to save costs in unnecessary brake work. Generally vibration under braking that can be felt through the bodywork or seating of the car is a problem on the REAR brake and vibration felt on the steering wheel is related to FRONT brake problems.
What are the best pads to prevent or limit brake vibration????
Any good quality pad with a high thermal conductivity will reduce the chances of vibration both due to DTV as described above or vibration at speeds due to what we call thermal shock. Thermal shock is common on European cars and all pads in the EBC range are especially good at reducing vibration. Our online catalog recommends the minimum grades for your car and shows options.