Pomen besede

KendrickLamar

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No takole, ker mislim, da bi bilo dobro imeti takšno temo sem se odločil da jo odprem ker se mi zdi hkrati tudi poučna. Gre pa za pomen besed, ki jih ne razumemo.

Torej naj začnem:

Recimo mene zanima pomen besed kot so

OUTLAW kaj to pomeni? Da poveš z svojimi besedami in ne tisto kar piše na wikipediji. Kako bi vi besedo OUTLAW prevedli? Ali pa besedo THUG (life). Hustler.

Torej besede:
Outlaw
Thug
Hustler

Naj bo to za začetek. Seveda pomen napišeš v slovenščini in ne v angleščini.
 

mistique

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Thug je nasilnež. Je pa podobno kot hustler, nekdo, ki ima usran lajf in se v okolju, kjer živi znajde, kakor ve in zna.

Hustler je pa v lahko prevarant, prekupčevalec, mutibariæ
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oz. nekdo, ki igra umazano, da doseže kar želi. Ali pa zgolj oseba, ki na trd (pa vendarle pošten) način služi denar oz. se prebija skozi življenje.

Outlaw je pa Egonislaw odlično prevedel. Out(of)law - izven zakona torej. Nekdo, ki dela prekrške, kriminalec,...

Za take urbane izraze imaš na Urban dictionary-ju precej opisov.
 

skala

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a nimaš angleško angleškega slovarja kje na internetu zastonj? al prevajaš kakšno reč pa se zanašaš na elterjevsko pomoč?
 

skala

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google translator ni angleško angleški...
ja če ne znaš jezika je angleško angleški neuporaben.

swag... a nisto to neke bedne reprske fore ko sploh ne razumejo kaj pomeni in si mislijo, da so izumili novo besedo?
hipsterji pa naj bi bili ljudje, ki se oblačijo v nek stil iz prejšnjega stoletja samo... eee... ne vem kako bi opisal...
 

skala

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super slovar. sem našel opis za hipsterja
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samo je dokaj kratek...
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hipster
Hipsters are a subculture of men and women typically in their 20's and 30's that value independent thinking, counter-culture, progressive politics, an appreciation of art and indie-rock, creativity, intelligence, and witty banter. The greatest concentrations of hipsters can be found living in the Williamsburg, Wicker Park, and Mission District neighborhoods of major cosmopolitan centers such as New York, Chicago, and San Francisco respectively. Although "hipsterism" is really a state of mind,it is also often intertwined with distinct fashion sensibilities. Hipsters reject the culturally-ignorant attitudes of mainstream consumers, and are often be seen wearing vintage and thrift store inspired fashions, tight-fitting jeans, old-school sneakers, and sometimes thick rimmed glasses. Both hipster men and women sport similar androgynous hair styles that include combinations of messy shag cuts and asymmetric side-swept bangs. Such styles are often associated with the work of creative stylists at urban salons, and are usually too "edgy" for the culturally-sheltered mainstream consumer. The "effortless cool" urban bohemian look of a hipster is exemplified in Urban Outfitters and American Apparel ads which cater towards the hipster demographic. Despite misconceptions based on their aesthetic tastes, hipsters tend to be well educated and often have liberal arts degrees, or degrees in maths and sciences, which also require certain creative analytical thinking abilities. Consequently many hipsters tend to have jobs in the music, art, and fashion industries. It is a myth that most hipsters are unemployed and live off of their parent's trust funds.
Hipsters shun mainstream societal conventions that apply to dating preferences and traditional "rules" of physical attraction. It is part of the hipster central dogma not to be influenced by mainsream advertising and media, which tends to only promote ethnocentric ideals of beauty. The concepts of androgyny and feminism have influenced hipster culture, where hipster men are often as thin as the women they date. The muscular and athletic all-American male ideal is not seen as attractive by confident and culturally-empowered hipster women who instead view them as symbols of male oppression, sexism, and misogyny. Likewise, culturally-vapid sorority-type girls with fake blond hair, overly tanned skin, and "Britney Spears tube-tops" are not seen as attractive by cultured hipster males who instead see them as symbols of female insecurity, low self-esteem, and lack of cultural intelligence and independent thinking. Hipsters are also very racially open-minded, and the greatest number of interracial couples in any urban environment are typically found within the hipster subculture.
Although hipsters are technically conformists within their own subculture, in comparison to the much larger mainstream mass, they are pioneers and leaders of the latest cultural trends and ideals. For example, the surge of jeans made to look old and worn (i.e. "distressed"), that have become prevalent at stores such as The Gap, American Eagle, Abercrombie and Fitch, and Hollister, were originally paraded by hipsters who shopped in thrift stores years before such clothing items were mass produced and sold to the mainstream consumer. The true irony here is that many of the detractors of hipster culture are in fact unknowingly following a path that hipsters have carved out years before them. This phenomena also applies to music as well, as many bands have become successful and known to mainstream audiences only because hipsters first found and listened to them as early-adopters of new culture. Once certain concepts of fashion and music have reached mainstream audiences, hipsters move on to something new and improved.
Because of the rise of various online photo-blog and social networking sites, insights into urban hipster culture is reaching sheltered suburban audiences at an exponential rate. Cultural "norms" have been deconstructed by hipster culture as a whole. Hipsterism is often dismissed as just an image thing by some, but the culture as a whole is effecting changes in society, leading to feelings of insecurity and resentment in people who are no longer a part of the cultural ruling class. For example, a lot of anti-hipster sentiment evidently comes from culturally-clueless suburban frat boy types who feel that the more sensitive, intelligent, and culturally aware hipster ideal threatens their insecure sense of masculinity. Anti-hipster sentiment often comes from people who simply can't keep up with social change and are envious of those who can.
A conversation outside a hipster bar in downtown NYC:

Frat Boy #1: Dude, are you having any luck picking up chicks in there?

Frat Boy #2: Man...I haven't experienced anything like this before. These chicks are totally rejecting me and going for all these hipster guys in tight pants and shaggy hair instead.

Frat Boy #1: Maybe we should head back up to that bar in Murry Hill where you hooked up with that drunk b*tch from Alpha Sigma Phi last week?

Frat Boy #2: Yeah...I don't think we have what it takes to compete with these guys in here. These hipster chicks won't even give us the time of the day!
 

R0KY

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google zna cist lepo delat razlago angleških besed. samo na google.COM napiese define: beseda

recimo define: swag

swag
swag/Submit
noun
noun: swag; plural noun: swags
1.
an ornamental festoon of flowers, fruit, and greenery.
"ribbon-tied swags of flowers"
a carved or painted representation of an ornamental festoon of flowers or fruit.
"fine plaster swags"
a curtain or piece of fabric fastened so as to hang in a drooping curve.
2.
informal
money or goods taken by a thief or burglar.
"their homes offer tempting swag for burglars"
products given away free, typically for promotional purposes.
"local studios provide swag, spirits, and food"
marijuana, typically of a low grade.
"prices range from $40 a 10-seed packet for some Jamaican swag to $345 per pack for something tastier"
3.
AUSTRAL./NZ
a traveler's or miner's bundle of personal belongings.
informal
a large number, amount, or variety.
"the seller left a swag of unpaid bills"
verb
verb: swag; 3rd person present: swags; past tense: swagged; past participle: swagged; gerund or present participle: swagging
1.
arrange in or decorate with a swag or swags of fabric.
"swag the fabric gracefully over the curtain tie-backs"
2.
AUSTRAL./NZ
travel with one's personal belongings in a bundle.
"swagging it in Queensland"
3.
literary
hang heavily.
"the crinkly old hide swags here and there"
sway from side to side.
"the stout chief sat swagging from one side of the carriage to the other"
Origin
Middle English (in the sense ‘bulging bag’): probably of Scandinavian origin. The original sense of the verb (early 16th cent.) was ‘cause to sway or sag.’
 

KendrickLamar

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Pa saj vem da v google vse najdeš. Napisal sem vam gor da mi ne lepiti angleških prevodov ker je bedno. Bolj zanimivo je da z svojim besedam prevedete besedo. Pač kot igra
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Uporabnik R0KY pravi:
google zna cist lepo delat razlago angleških besed. samo na google.COM napiese define: beseda

recimo define: swag

swag
swag/Submit
noun
noun: swag; plural noun: swags
1.
an ornamental festoon of flowers, fruit, and greenery.
"ribbon-tied swags of flowers"
a carved or painted representation of an ornamental festoon of flowers or fruit.
"fine plaster swags"
a curtain or piece of fabric fastened so as to hang in a drooping curve.
2.
informal
money or goods taken by a thief or burglar.
"their homes offer tempting swag for burglars"
products given away free, typically for promotional purposes.
"local studios provide swag, spirits, and food"
marijuana, typically of a low grade.
"prices range from $40 a 10-seed packet for some Jamaican swag to $345 per pack for something tastier"
3.
AUSTRAL./NZ
a traveler's or miner's bundle of personal belongings.
informal
a large number, amount, or variety.
"the seller left a swag of unpaid bills"
verb
verb: swag; 3rd person present: swags; past tense: swagged; past participle: swagged; gerund or present participle: swagging
1.
arrange in or decorate with a swag or swags of fabric.
"swag the fabric gracefully over the curtain tie-backs"
2.
AUSTRAL./NZ
travel with one's personal belongings in a bundle.
"swagging it in Queensland"
3.
literary
hang heavily.
"the crinkly old hide swags here and there"
sway from side to side.
"the stout chief sat swagging from one side of the carriage to the other"
Origin
Middle English (in the sense ‘bulging bag’): probably of Scandinavian origin. The original sense of the verb (early 16th cent.) was ‘cause to sway or sag.’

Ja, Google zna napisati lepo definicijo besede. Sploh če hočeš razlago iz srednjeveških časov
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Hint: to ni prava definicija novodobnega SWAG-a.
 

skala

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Uporabnik KendrickLamar pravi:
Vidim, da tole ne bo delovalo. Sem mislim da bodo tudi drugi napisali svoje besede.
svoje besede? emmm.... moja beseda - ampak res čisto moja je: ghakgh. no sedaj mi jo pa razloži.
 

SouthPark

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Citat:
Uporabnik philips pravi:
Ja, Google zna napisati lepo definicijo besede. Sploh če hočeš razlago iz srednjeveških časov
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Hint: to ni prava definicija novodobnega SWAG-a.

Se strinjam, nobena ni prava.

SWAG pomeni Secretly We Are Gay, ampak še to ni več pravi pomen dandanes, ker besedo uporabljajo najstniki namesto... recimo cool. Da si oblečen cool (I got swag), da se obnašaš cool (she/he has swag)... Tudi swagger kot zamenjava za 'playa'.
 

KendrickLamar

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Da ne odpiram nove teme me še nekaj zanima. Ravno berem knjigo v angleščini pa me zanima, ker to velikokrat opazim. Kakšen pomen ima beseda thought na koncu stavka? Zanima me ker včasih opažam tudi pri filmih in mi deluje kot da nima pomena. Beseda thought kot taka ima pomen ampak na koncu stavka pa re ne vem kaj bi pomenilo? Če mi zna kdo razložiti kaj pomeni in kdaj se jo lahko uporablja bi bil hvaležen. Lahko pa navedem tudi nekaj primerov, če ne boste razumeli kaj mislim.
 

msenjur

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Jest mislim da pomeni "a ves?"

Recimo... Pisuka, tale izpit je bil pa tezak, a ves! Kot nek pritrdilnik na koncu stavka

Sicer pa, a ne spada thought k nepravilnemu glagolu think?
 

SouthPark

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Verjetno misliš kot ''now there's a thought''? To je mišljeno kot ''zanimiva ideja'', ''na to nisem pomislil'', tudi ''premisli/te o tem'', ''kaj pravite o tem''.

Sicer pa napiši kak primer.