Napetost v Ukrajini - Krimu

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Constitutional reform in Ukraine, with a new constitution to come into effect by the end of 2015, the key element of which is decentralisation (taking into account peculiarities of particular districts of Donetsk and Luhansk oblasts, agreed with representatives of these districts), and also approval of permanent legislation on the special status of particular districts of Donetsk and Luhansk oblasts in accordance with the measures spelt out in the attached footnote,[note 1] by the end of 2015.
Based on the Law of Ukraine "On temporary Order of Local Self-Governance in Particular Districts of Donetsk and Luhansk Oblasts", questions related to local elections will be discussed and agreed upon with representatives of particular districts of Donetsk and Luhansk oblasts in the framework of the Trilateral Contact Group. Elections will be held in accordance with relevant OSCE standards and monitored by OSCE/ODIHR. --- 11. in 12. točka sporazuma iz Minska....
 

Pac_Man

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https://twitter.com/SimonOstrovsky/status/578170010524319744

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US delaying its training program for Ukrainian soldiers to avoid giving the Kremlin an excuse to scrap the Minsk peace deal, WSJ reports

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Ukrajina je danes demobilizirala 20k oz podobno veliko številko vojakov.

S takim odnosom bodo Rusi v enem letu res pred Kijevom.
 

darjan

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Edino, kar sodi v razvit svet je, da se rusijo eliminira iz ukrajine, vse ostalo pa samo v posmeh t.i. "razvitem zahodu".
 

boomslang

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Edino, kar sodi v razvit svet je, da se rusijo eliminira iz ukrajine, vse ostalo pa samo v posmeh t.i. "razvitem zahodu".
Jaz resno računam nate, da boš v prvih bojnih linijak, ko se bo to naredilo...
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Pac_Man

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Ma, nimajo se it take enostranske "deeskalacije", dokler druga se druga stran oborožuje in trdi, da so Mariupol, Kharkiv in še cel kup lokacij njihove.

Rusija premirje uporablja za rotacijo, podobno kot Minsk I v novembru/decembru. Verjetno lahko okrog 1. maja spet pričakujemo akcijo. Če bo ukrajinska stran dovolj deeskalirala, že prej.
 

darjan

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Pred dnevi sem bral, kaj so glavni "problemi" pentagona, zakaj se ne oboroži ukrajine; plačanci.

Tudi na ukrajinski strani se "bojujejo" plačanci, ki pa so lahko sumljivega porekla in lahko bi potem napredno usa orožje padlo v napačne roke. Ker pregleda nad temi divjaki seveda ni.

Torej je problem, vojska bi se morala zelo reorganizirat, kar pa ne bo šlo v nekaj mesecih, tako da bo rusija komot prišla do tistega ozemlja, edino če bi zahod nudil tudi direktno vojaško pomoč ukrajinski vojski, s čimer se tvega direkten spopad z rusijo.

Prihodnost ni svetla in zelo težko rešljiva. Dejstvo je, da se rusiji ne sme prepustiti ozemlja, če se gremo nekega razvitega, demokratičnega sveta, hkrati pa sama ukrajinska vojska ni zmožna obraniti ozemlje.
 

AndY1

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Tudi na ukrajinski strani se "bojujejo" plačanci, ki pa so lahko sumljivega porekla in lahko bi potem napredno usa orožje padlo v napačne roke. Ker pregleda nad temi divjaki seveda ni.

Imaš povsem prav: Pentagon lost $500mn of weapons, equipment in Yemen

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American military officials admitted to members of Congress that they have lost track of millions in small arms, ammunition, night vision goggles, patrol boats, vehicles and other supplies donated by the US to the Yemeni government.

The US has supplied more than $500 million in military aid to Yemen since 2007 through programs managed by the Defense Department and State Department. But in January, the Yemeni government was toppled by Shiite Houthi rebels, backed by Iran and critical of US drones strikes in the country, who also took over government military bases in the north.
 

darjan

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Ja..pa sirija in irak, sta tudi taka primera
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dvakrat ni za rečt, da je konkretno v ukrajini, rusija že nekam infiltrirala svoje ljudi, ki bi s pridom izkoristili zaseženo tehnologijo, ipd.
 

boomslang

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Evo, ti ga na.. Buhteljčki spet o oborožitvi, pa o tem, kako bodo izrinili Ruse iz Ukrajine, pa, pa , pa..... Pa kje vi živite.. Kolikokrat vam bo treba še napisat..... Če pustimo vnemar globalne razloge, NATO, dollar, vplivne cone itd.itd, vam še vedno ostane razlog, zaradi katerega Putin NIKOLI ne bo izgubil vojne v Ukrajini.... Trikrat lahko ugibate kateri je ta razlog... ?
 

Matey

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Ah ja....
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Dutch dismiss reports alleging MH17 downed by Buk missile

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The Netherlands has denied reports that the Malaysia Airlines plane was downed by a Buk missile, killing all 298 passengers and crew last July.

The Dutch Safety Board (DSB), which is investigating the cause of the crash, responded to reports released earlier by Netherlands broadcaster RTL alleging that the flight MH17 was downed by a Russian-made anti-aircraft missile system.
 

XXXL

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Ah ja....
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Dutch dismiss reports alleging MH17 downed by Buk missile

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The Netherlands has denied reports that the Malaysia Airlines plane was downed by a Buk missile, killing all 298 passengers and crew last July.

The Dutch Safety Board (DSB), which is investigating the cause of the crash, responded to reports released earlier by Netherlands broadcaster RTL alleging that the flight MH17 was downed by a Russian-made anti-aircraft missile system.

Zanikajo poročilo, ne zanikajo, da bi ga sestrelili Rusi... Saj je Bratuškova tudi zanikala samokandidaturo... malo je bilo treba še počakati, potem smo pa videli dokaz... tu bo pa isto...
 

Matey

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Torej zanikanje sporočila, ki pravi, da so letalo sestrelili Rusi ni enako zanikanju, da so letalo sestrelili Rusi?