malaysian airline part 2
- Ustvarjalec teme shift
- Začetni datum
MH17.
Pojasni vse geolocirane posnetke BUKa na in izven transporterja iz različnih virov, geolocirano sled izpuha rakete po izstrelitvi, geolocirano požgano polje na istem mestu s par kosi neidentificirane črne plastike s timestampi iz 1980ih, geolocirane sledi gosenic na satelitskih posnetkih polj v okolici, izjave upornikov in njihovih podpornikov s konca junija, da so Ukrajincem zasegli BUK(e), ki jih popravljajo, izjavo lastnika tovornjaka in priklopnika, da so mu uporniki zasedli podjetje z vso tehniko, tole poročilo ruske TV npr. :
To vse, preden sploh pridemo do dvomljivih ukrajinskih prisluhov.
Dokaznega materiala je BMHO več kot dovolj, kar je še bolj pomembno je precej primerov, ko je bila postavljena hipoteza kasneje potrjena z novim materialom - enostavno vse koherentno "klapa". Ruski izgovori so pa metanje vsega mogočega sranja ob steno, če se morda kaj prime.
Če parafraziram: "If the glove does fit, you can't acquit."
Pojasni vse geolocirane posnetke BUKa na in izven transporterja iz različnih virov, geolocirano sled izpuha rakete po izstrelitvi, geolocirano požgano polje na istem mestu s par kosi neidentificirane črne plastike s timestampi iz 1980ih, geolocirane sledi gosenic na satelitskih posnetkih polj v okolici, izjave upornikov in njihovih podpornikov s konca junija, da so Ukrajincem zasegli BUK(e), ki jih popravljajo, izjavo lastnika tovornjaka in priklopnika, da so mu uporniki zasedli podjetje z vso tehniko, tole poročilo ruske TV npr. :
To vse, preden sploh pridemo do dvomljivih ukrajinskih prisluhov.
Dokaznega materiala je BMHO več kot dovolj, kar je še bolj pomembno je precej primerov, ko je bila postavljena hipoteza kasneje potrjena z novim materialom - enostavno vse koherentno "klapa". Ruski izgovori so pa metanje vsega mogočega sranja ob steno, če se morda kaj prime.
Če parafraziram: "If the glove does fit, you can't acquit."
Pardon ja mh17 sem mislil ne mh370.
Ampak vseeno, če je vse črno na belem, zakaj se primer ne zaključi in izrečejo oz. izvršijo sankcije? Zakaj bi uporniki pustili toliko sledi, kakšen je bil motiv, zakaj se rusi distancirajo od tega dogodka, če pa so po tvojem dokazi neizpodbitni in si s tem zmanjšujejo kredibilnost?
Ne branim nikogar in še vedno govorim, da se bo uradno poročilo napisalo tako, da bo v prid največjim interesom. Kaj če se dejansko dokaže, da so bili rusi odgovorni za to tragedijo (uporniki), kakšne sankcije se bodo izvršile proti njim? Nobenih sankcij ne bo, ker nas držijo za jajca z dobavo plina, do spopada pa tudi dvomim, da bo prišlo, ne v Ukrajini, kaj šele v Rusiji.
Ampak vseeno, če je vse črno na belem, zakaj se primer ne zaključi in izrečejo oz. izvršijo sankcije? Zakaj bi uporniki pustili toliko sledi, kakšen je bil motiv, zakaj se rusi distancirajo od tega dogodka, če pa so po tvojem dokazi neizpodbitni in si s tem zmanjšujejo kredibilnost?
Ne branim nikogar in še vedno govorim, da se bo uradno poročilo napisalo tako, da bo v prid največjim interesom. Kaj če se dejansko dokaže, da so bili rusi odgovorni za to tragedijo (uporniki), kakšne sankcije se bodo izvršile proti njim? Nobenih sankcij ne bo, ker nas držijo za jajca z dobavo plina, do spopada pa tudi dvomim, da bo prišlo, ne v Ukrajini, kaj šele v Rusiji.
Meni je cudno da rusi nonstop tezijo po medijih za rezultate preiskave tako da nevem ce so imeli prste vmes...
Oh ja, si pogledal video kako so ruski mediji govorili o tem da je ruska stran sklatila Antonova, potem pa glej čudež kmalu za tem pa ista slika in o tem češ da so Ukrajinska letala sestrelili malezijsko?
Kdaj vam bo v pisker prišlo da Rusom ni za zaupati, pa pusti jenkije pri miru, sicer pa so Ukrajinci tudi pravoslavci!
Kdaj vam bo v pisker prišlo da Rusom ni za zaupati, pa pusti jenkije pri miru, sicer pa so Ukrajinci tudi pravoslavci!
Nimaš pojma, Srbi kljub temu da niso dobili nikoli nič pametnega iz Rusije podpirajo Ruse, da pa bi tam živeli, to pa ne, grejo rajši v osovražene ZDA. So jim tako američani kot angleži in francozi dali proste roke, pa so bili tako nesposobni, da so komaj obdržali del osvojenega, v sami Srbiji pa so celo izgubili cvet ozemlja!
Ker pa tako radi poudarjajo Pravoslavje, pa jih samo opomnim, da so tudi Ukrajinci Pravoslavni!
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https://twitter.com/BBCr4today/status/508889030583652352/photo/1
Eyewitness nr #MH17 crash site told @JohnSweeneyRoar they saw BUK missile launcher, crew spoke w/Moscow accents
Nocoj bo imel na BBC TVju prispevek o stanju na v. Ukrajine.
Eyewitness nr #MH17 crash site told @JohnSweeneyRoar they saw BUK missile launcher, crew spoke w/Moscow accents
Nocoj bo imel na BBC TVju prispevek o stanju na v. Ukrajine.
Še BrownMoses je vstopil v ring in takoj sprožil (usodni) kruše.
https://bellingcat.com/news/uk...russian-troops/
Za slike, videe in vire kliknite na link
New evidence has been found that shows the Buk missile system that was used to shoot down MH17 on the 17th of July came from Russia, and was most likely operated by Russian soldiers. Using videos posted by locals in Russia’s Belgorod region back in June it has been possible to identify the Buk missile launcher seen in Ukraine on July 17th as part of a convoy of Buk missile launchers. It has also been possible to identify the Russian brigade the Buk is likely to have belonged to, and who may have operated the Buk missile launcher when it was in Ukraine.
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The Buk that had been seen in the Staryy Oskol area in June has marks on both sides that match those seen on the Buk before and after the attack on July 17th. Just like the Buk linked to the attack on MH17, it does not have railings on the back of its turret, and the back section of its turret is also a dark colour that matches what we can see in the photograph in Torez. The vehicle is also distinctive, for instance, it is the only one to have that distinct set of markings out of the entire column of vehicles that was seen in late June.
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It’s also possible to determine which Russian unit the Buk is likely to belong to by examining the vehicles in the column. The videos of the convoy travelling to Ukraine show that the vehicles have area code “50” on their registration plates, which indicates that they belong to the Moscovskiy Voenniy Okrug (MVO) or the Moscow Military District.
The area code “50” is visible on the registration plates of the vehicles in a video taken in the Krasneyskiy area on the morning of the 24th of June.
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A resident of Staryy Oskol also confirmed that the registration numbers on the vehicles in the convoy had the “50” code. The user rokerrson posted on instagram on the 23rd of June:
This evening, a column of military hardware passed through our city, which included, mobile RLS [radar], ZRK [air defense missile system] Buk (if correctly identified), a bunch of tented Urals and other vehicles, generally around 80-100 units in total, including a field kitchen and refueling trucks. Presumably, these are troops of the CVO [Central Military District] on exercises and they moved in the direction of the Ukrainian border with the Belgorod region.
Later, the poster added the following: “correction with the CVO… vehicles with Moscow numbers (50 rus)”.
The Moscow Military District has two anti-aircraft missile brigades that are specially outfitted with Buk systems. These are the 5th Zrbr “Buk”, which is based in Shuya and the 53rd Zrbr “Buk” which is based in Kursk. The 5th brigade can be ruled out because according to multiple sources it has been moved out of the Moscow Military District and into the Western Military District, and is now head-quartered in St Petersburg, where it uses the “43” area code on its vehicles.
As Kursk is relatively close to Staryy Oskol it makes sense that the convoy was comprised of the 53rd brigade and departed from its base at V/Ch (Military Unit) 32406. This is also confirmed by the earliest video of the convoy, taken during in the morning or afternoon of the 23rd June, which shows the vehicles driving away from Kursk and in the direction of Kharkiv. It is therefore likely that the Buk belongs to the 53rd brigade from Kursk.
Moreover, it also appears the 53rd “Buk” brigade not only uses the “50” area code on their registration plates, but their troops have uploaded pictures of some of the same vehicles that can been seen in the videos taken around Staryy Oskol.
P.S.
Avtor ni BrownMoses, ampak Rus Iggy Ostanin - Magnitsky. Samo objavlja na Bellingcat-u.
https://bellingcat.com/news/uk...russian-troops/
Za slike, videe in vire kliknite na link
New evidence has been found that shows the Buk missile system that was used to shoot down MH17 on the 17th of July came from Russia, and was most likely operated by Russian soldiers. Using videos posted by locals in Russia’s Belgorod region back in June it has been possible to identify the Buk missile launcher seen in Ukraine on July 17th as part of a convoy of Buk missile launchers. It has also been possible to identify the Russian brigade the Buk is likely to have belonged to, and who may have operated the Buk missile launcher when it was in Ukraine.
...
The Buk that had been seen in the Staryy Oskol area in June has marks on both sides that match those seen on the Buk before and after the attack on July 17th. Just like the Buk linked to the attack on MH17, it does not have railings on the back of its turret, and the back section of its turret is also a dark colour that matches what we can see in the photograph in Torez. The vehicle is also distinctive, for instance, it is the only one to have that distinct set of markings out of the entire column of vehicles that was seen in late June.
...
It’s also possible to determine which Russian unit the Buk is likely to belong to by examining the vehicles in the column. The videos of the convoy travelling to Ukraine show that the vehicles have area code “50” on their registration plates, which indicates that they belong to the Moscovskiy Voenniy Okrug (MVO) or the Moscow Military District.
The area code “50” is visible on the registration plates of the vehicles in a video taken in the Krasneyskiy area on the morning of the 24th of June.
...
A resident of Staryy Oskol also confirmed that the registration numbers on the vehicles in the convoy had the “50” code. The user rokerrson posted on instagram on the 23rd of June:
This evening, a column of military hardware passed through our city, which included, mobile RLS [radar], ZRK [air defense missile system] Buk (if correctly identified), a bunch of tented Urals and other vehicles, generally around 80-100 units in total, including a field kitchen and refueling trucks. Presumably, these are troops of the CVO [Central Military District] on exercises and they moved in the direction of the Ukrainian border with the Belgorod region.
Later, the poster added the following: “correction with the CVO… vehicles with Moscow numbers (50 rus)”.
The Moscow Military District has two anti-aircraft missile brigades that are specially outfitted with Buk systems. These are the 5th Zrbr “Buk”, which is based in Shuya and the 53rd Zrbr “Buk” which is based in Kursk. The 5th brigade can be ruled out because according to multiple sources it has been moved out of the Moscow Military District and into the Western Military District, and is now head-quartered in St Petersburg, where it uses the “43” area code on its vehicles.
As Kursk is relatively close to Staryy Oskol it makes sense that the convoy was comprised of the 53rd brigade and departed from its base at V/Ch (Military Unit) 32406. This is also confirmed by the earliest video of the convoy, taken during in the morning or afternoon of the 23rd June, which shows the vehicles driving away from Kursk and in the direction of Kharkiv. It is therefore likely that the Buk belongs to the 53rd brigade from Kursk.
Moreover, it also appears the 53rd “Buk” brigade not only uses the “50” area code on their registration plates, but their troops have uploaded pictures of some of the same vehicles that can been seen in the videos taken around Staryy Oskol.
P.S.
Avtor ni BrownMoses, ampak Rus Iggy Ostanin - Magnitsky. Samo objavlja na Bellingcat-u.
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