Križarska vojska v Ukrajini
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Komentar je bil eazy mode, ok slikca je manjkala..
Sicer pa, če je takrat res že pobegnil iz države, kot pravi eazy, je takrat že vedel, da je izgubil oblast, zato poteza za diskreditacijo novih na oblasti?
aha... grem back to the future mode....
on je vedel da bo moral spokati zato je narocil x in y (nasprotnikom btw) ta pogovor ,ker je vedel da ga bodo snemali! da diskreditira nasprotnike seveda!
Kljub kaos&zrtvam Putin ni prihrumel.... Ce bi to ze zelel bi vladna stran odstreljevala ljudi in to uporabil za ta nesmisel. Sicer je pa doktorica ,ki je zdravila vse zrtve jasno rekla kdo in kako...
Rusi so odstreljevali ljudi ,ker so zeleli kaos v katerem je *njihov* clovek zgubil. Logika da te kap.
Ne sploh ne, kdo pa je zdaj na krimu? Valda ne bo začel kar strelat okoli, tega pa verjetno nihče ne verjame, da je zmožen, ker je close to russian suicide pol
Sicer pa če je možno kaj takega ocenit, trdit, zakaj potem imamo forenziko pri strelnem orožju, dohtarji bi pač povedli svoje mnenje in veljalo bi za resnico. Sam malce dvomi, da je to možno.
Sicer pa če je možno kaj takega ocenit, trdit, zakaj potem imamo forenziko pri strelnem orožju, dohtarji bi pač povedli svoje mnenje in veljalo bi za resnico. Sam malce dvomi, da je to možno.
Vse manj verjamem zahodnim državam in vse več rusiji...
btw:
Pariz, 5. marca (STA) - Ruski zunanji minister Sergej Lavrov je po pogovoru z ameriškim kolegom Johnom Kerryjem v Parizu dejal, da sta se strinjala, da morajo pomagati Ukrajincem pri uresničitvi dogovorov z 21. februarja med odstavljenim predsednikom Viktorjem Janukovičem in takratno opozicijo, ki je zdaj na oblasti. Ameriška stran pa je tak dogovor že zanikala.
btw:
Pariz, 5. marca (STA) - Ruski zunanji minister Sergej Lavrov je po pogovoru z ameriškim kolegom Johnom Kerryjem v Parizu dejal, da sta se strinjala, da morajo pomagati Ukrajincem pri uresničitvi dogovorov z 21. februarja med odstavljenim predsednikom Viktorjem Janukovičem in takratno opozicijo, ki je zdaj na oblasti. Ameriška stran pa je tak dogovor že zanikala.
Glede na to, da se je telefonski razgovor zgodil že vsaj en teden nazaj in smo o tem dejstvu morali zvedeti na tak način, dvomim, da se bo kaj zgodilo, da bodo zahodni politiki obrnili ploščo sami od sebe.
Na podlagi tega posnetka se lahko le obrne javno mnenje, na podlagi česar bodo morali politiki odgovarjati. Sami od sebe pa so očitno tole samo zašuškali, ker jim ne gre v prid njihovi 'demokratični' zgodbi.
Na podlagi tega posnetka se lahko le obrne javno mnenje, na podlagi česar bodo morali politiki odgovarjati. Sami od sebe pa so očitno tole samo zašuškali, ker jim ne gre v prid njihovi 'demokratični' zgodbi.
Krim ni imel nobene veze z ostrostrelci kdorkoli je bil strelec. Dve popolnoma nepovezani zadevi. Samo eni stran je kaos bil potreben in to vsekakor niso bili Rusi. Za taksno ugotovitev ni poglobljena analiza ali forenzik. Btw, nova oblast ni zelela preiskave kljub njenim ugotovitvam
Disi na nekaj, huh?
Poleg tega, tocno taksni "incidenti" so bili izvedeni tudi drugje... Zagotovo gre za nakljucje, sploh glede na to da zadaj ista organizacija.
Our correspondent, Damien McElroy, has spoken to the doctor at the centre of the claims that snipers that shot people in Kiev were hired by Maidan leaders:
Olga Bogomolets said she had not told Mr Paet that policemen and protesters had been killed in the same manner. "Myself I saw only protesters. I do not know the type of wounds suffered by military people," she told The Telegraph. "I have no access to those people."
But she said she had asked for a full forensic criminal investigation into the deaths that occurred in the Maidan. "No one who just sees the wounds when treating the victims can make a determination about the type of weapons. I hope international experts and Ukrainian investigators will make a determination of what type of weapons, who was involved in the killings and how it was done. I have no data to prove anything.
"I was a doctor helping to save people on the square. There were 15 people killed on the first day by snipers. They were shot directly to the heart, brain and arteries. There were more than 40 the next day, 12 of them died in my arms.
"Our nation has to ask the question who were the killers, who asked them to come to Ukraine. We need good answers on the basis of expertise."
Mr Paet's assertion that an opposition figure was behind the Maidan massacre was not one she could share.
"I think you can only say something like this on the basis of fact," she said. "Its not correct and its not good to do this. It should be based on fact."
She said the new government in Kiev had assured her a criminal investigation had begun but that she had not direct contact with it so far.
"They told me they have begun a criminal process and if they say that I believe them. The police have not given me any information on it."
@ http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/ukraine/10677370/Ukraine-Russia-crisis-live.html
Pa še ena ima težave s poročanjem (lažnih(?)) informacij za RT:
Olga Bogomolets said she had not told Mr Paet that policemen and protesters had been killed in the same manner. "Myself I saw only protesters. I do not know the type of wounds suffered by military people," she told The Telegraph. "I have no access to those people."
But she said she had asked for a full forensic criminal investigation into the deaths that occurred in the Maidan. "No one who just sees the wounds when treating the victims can make a determination about the type of weapons. I hope international experts and Ukrainian investigators will make a determination of what type of weapons, who was involved in the killings and how it was done. I have no data to prove anything.
"I was a doctor helping to save people on the square. There were 15 people killed on the first day by snipers. They were shot directly to the heart, brain and arteries. There were more than 40 the next day, 12 of them died in my arms.
"Our nation has to ask the question who were the killers, who asked them to come to Ukraine. We need good answers on the basis of expertise."
Mr Paet's assertion that an opposition figure was behind the Maidan massacre was not one she could share.
"I think you can only say something like this on the basis of fact," she said. "Its not correct and its not good to do this. It should be based on fact."
She said the new government in Kiev had assured her a criminal investigation had begun but that she had not direct contact with it so far.
"They told me they have begun a criminal process and if they say that I believe them. The police have not given me any information on it."
@ http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/ukraine/10677370/Ukraine-Russia-crisis-live.html
Pa še ena ima težave s poročanjem (lažnih(?)) informacij za RT:
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da bi rešili to hudo krimsko ukrajinsko krizo in ruse postavili na realna tla predlagam da najprej uvedemo rusiji gospodarske sankcije :
- nehamo jim dobavljati plin
- nehamo jim dobavljati nafto
- nehamo jim dobavljati orožje
- nehamo jim dobavljati rudnine - zlato, uran, sol, žveplo....
- nehamo jih zalagati z lesom
- prenehamo jim dobavljati alkoholne pijače - recimo vodko - to jih bo najbolj prizadelo
in če ne bodo takoj zapustili krima ( čeprav imajo pogodbo , da so lahko tam ) jim naj nato napove vojno, pa jih 1x za vselej ornk sfookamo
potopimo tiste stare ladje v črnem morju, ameri jih zavzamejo preko severnega pola in iz smeri aljaske, eu pa po celi meji z njimi
pa si jih razkosamo. pa bo 1 x končno mir potem v regiji
kaj pravite ?
da bi rešili to hudo krimsko ukrajinsko krizo in ruse postavili na realna tla predlagam da najprej uvedemo rusiji gospodarske sankcije :
- nehamo jim dobavljati plin
- nehamo jim dobavljati nafto
- nehamo jim dobavljati orožje
- nehamo jim dobavljati rudnine - zlato, uran, sol, žveplo....
- nehamo jih zalagati z lesom
- prenehamo jim dobavljati alkoholne pijače - recimo vodko - to jih bo najbolj prizadelo
in če ne bodo takoj zapustili krima ( čeprav imajo pogodbo , da so lahko tam ) jim naj nato napove vojno, pa jih 1x za vselej ornk sfookamo
potopimo tiste stare ladje v črnem morju, ameri jih zavzamejo preko severnega pola in iz smeri aljaske, eu pa po celi meji z njimi
pa si jih razkosamo. pa bo 1 x končno mir potem v regiji
kaj pravite ?
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