Rusi v Siriji

boomslang

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Dajte no malo vse skupaj v perspektivo.. Vojna traja že peto leto... Koliko civilov in namenskih civilnih objektov, pa mislite, da še obstoja na območjih spopadov...
 

8888

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blizu močvirne prestolnice
Bore malo, tako kot v vsaki vojni, toda na živce mi gre, ker se nekatere poveličuje, dočim drugi so samo zloba od države! V vojni delajo vsi nemnosti in to vedo tudi neumni, kajneda Matey!
 

AndY1

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Rusi vsaj ne napadajo namensko bolnisnic, kot to pocnejo americani. Ce pa nameravajo americani, kot sem ze polinkal par strani nazaj, uvesti varovana obmocja, kamor se bodo lahko teroristi skrili med civili - to je v tistem videu biolo jasno povedano, a je kaj cudnega, da terorist jemljejo bolnisnice za svoja zavetja?
Mislim, da je bilo v enem video posnetku ruskega drona jasno videti, kako so se teroristi pripeljali z vec vozili do moseje in jo uporabili za kritje.
 

boomslang

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Pa dajmo malo vse skupaj v perspektivo... Tole je popis prebivalstva v mestih ( 2004 )... ar Raqqah 220.488
Idlib 97.969
Manbij 99.497
Shaddadeh 15.806
Palmira 51.323
Hirak
al Bab 63.069

Hama 312.994
Latakia 383.786
Damask 1,414.913
Salamiyah 66.724
Masyaf 22.507
Homs 652.609
Tartus 115.769
Qusayr 29.818
Suwayda 73.641
al Safira 63.708
Efrin 36.562
Sayyidah Zaynab 136.427
Douma 110.893
Al Aswad 84.948
Jaramana 114.363

Daraa 78.763
Hasakah 188.160
Deir ez zor 211.857 --- Koliko od tega je pod kontrolo teroristov. ??? Skorajda nič.... Asad še vedno drži pod kontrolo cca 70 -75 % KAR JE VREDNEGA v Siriji.... Teroristi držijo v glavnem neke male vasi in zaselke, puščavo in ostalo vukohebino + al Raqqo in Idlib... Problem ni v teritoriju pač pa v trajni rešitvi za teroriste.... Pa ja , da kdo ne misli, da se ob močni zračni podpori in splošni ofenzivi ne bi dalo v parih dneh osvoboditi npr. Idlib.... Mala malca... Problem je v tem, da bi kozojebe samo spodil nazaj v Irak in delno v Turčijo, čez par mesecev bi bili pa zopet nazaj....Po moje je intenziteta ravno prava za doseganje osnovnega cilja in to je trajna rešitev za islamiste v Siriji...
 

jest5

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Seveda so. Džamije
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boomslang

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Uporabnik softi pravi:
kaj je po tvoje trajna rešitev?
Na žalost je jaz ne vidim.... Relativno stabilna rešitev za ves ta bazen, je bila pol-sekularna diktatura Sadama v Iraku in Asada v Siriji.... Po "uspešni demokratizaciji", ve se koga to več ni možno.... Če še dodamo, da trajni kaos najbolj odgovarja Izraelu, in da obe državi ležita na poti bodočemu plinovodu iz največjega plinskega polja na svetu South Pars / North Dome field( cca 19% plinskih globalnih rezerv ), ki ga hočejo na eni strani črpati Američani preko Qatarja na drugi strani pa Iran potem tu res ni nobene rešitve....Dokler bosta nafta in plin glavno gibalo svetovne ekonomije, se bodo klali na Bl. Vzhodu....
 

AndY1

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Uporabnik Pac_Man pravi:
Jih vrtijo, ampak ni na RT in ne pride do naših pisunov.

Defense Ministry demanded that the NATO countries to explain their statements on Syria

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Russian Defense Ministry led military attaches of NATO countries and Saudi Arabia to present justify air strikes on charges hospitals in Syria

The fact that the Russian Defense Ministry has invited the military attaches of NATO countries and Saudi Arabia to justify accusations of air strikes on hospitals in Syria, told reporters on Tuesday the deputy head of the military department Anatoly Antonov.

"We have invited the military attaches of the US today, the UK, France, Germany, Italy, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, NATO and asked to give a formal justification being made statements or to make a rebuttal. This is especially true in a number of outrageous allegations in the English-speaking media psevdoudarah the hospitals "- quoted Antonov Interfax.

He noted the efforts of the recent media attacks on the part of the Western media on the actions of Russian air and space forces in Syria.

"We are accused of not only strikes at a" moderate "opposition, but also against civilian targets such as hospitals, as well as mosques and schools. As a result, as reported in the Western media, allegedly killed civilians, "- he said, adding that similar statements appear and officials of foreign states. As an example, he called US Secretary of State John Kerry, US Secretary of Defense Ashton Carter, NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg, Minister of Defense of Great Britain, Michael Fallon and others.

Antonov added that the Defense Ministry demanded that the representatives of foreign countries to provide proof of such statements or to denounce them. "If the evidence is not submitted, nor does it go official denials, we will assume that these are part of the stuffing anti-Russian information war against Russia," - he said.

Last week, reports AFP referring to the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights reported on the air strike on Russian aviation field hospital in northwest Syria. It has been reported about the death of 13 people.

The Russian Foreign Ministry then denied these reports, calling them an injection of information. "The ingenuity of the media, of course, delighted. Please note that the stuffing made with reference to the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, which is based in London. We understand that in London "very easy" to cover what is happening in Syria, without going to a place and not being able to collect the information in the "on the ground" - then said Russian Foreign Ministry spokesman Maria Zakharova.

Kje so že tisti štirje cruise missile-i, za katere so američani rekli, da so pristali v Iranu? Koliko smo že slišali laži s strani ameriške administracije in zahodnih medijev, ki so se izkazali za neresnične?
 

Fadil

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Poročilo dogajanja v Siriji:

Na jugu Allepa so napredovali 40km v globino, prav tako do prišli na 3km stran od letalske baze Kuweires, ki je že 2 leti v obroču ISISa. Drugi cilj v tej smeri je zavzeti termalno postajo in presekati avtocesto od turške meje do Rakke, vemo zakaj
Poleg tega pucajo Nusro v gorah Latakije in Idlipa, ter obkoljena ozemlja v Damasku ter med Hamo in Homsom, da bi lahko odprli avtocesto med mestoma.
Sedaj ISIS je izvedel ofenzivo na avtocesto do Allepa in zankrat prekinil glavno oskrbovalno linijo do vladnih sil v Allepu, vendar jih sedaj zaradi velikih žrtev že potiskajo nazaj.

Drugače pa se več 1000 Irancev in s strani Irana podprtih šiitskih milic zbira v Allepu, naj bi jih bilo kmalu 10-15k. S to silo bodo vrjetno napadli še v smeri S-SZ od Allepa z namenom pretrgati vse oskrbovalne linije do Allepa in Idlipa ter v nadaljevanju zavzeti vso sirsko-turško mejo in tako še pospešiti dušenje islamistov zaradi vedno manjših zalog.
Poleg tega upam da bodo s popucanjem žepov severno od Homsa Rusi začeli uporabljati letališče južno od Homsa in bodo tako Rusi lahko dvignili število napadov na 200 dnevno. Nato kaže vedno večja aktivnost v Črnem morju in najem dodatnih ladijskih transportov za dobavo opreme v Sirijo
 

AndY1

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Uporabnik Pac_Man pravi:
Ena je strmoglavila tukaj

http://defence.pk/threads/tehr...in-iran.402127/

za ostale ne vem.

Teheran bo seveda vse zanikal. Od začetka se borijo na Assadovi strani, menda so močno lobirali, da se jim pridruži še Rusija. Enostavno ne bodo povzročali problemov na tej liniji.

Kje je to tukaj? Vse kar vidim, je en prazen krater in novica, ki padec rakete dejansko zanika? Kje so ostanki rakete?
 

boomslang

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Uporabnik Pac_Man pravi:
Ena je strmoglavila tukaj

http://defence.pk/threads/tehr...in-iran.402127/

za ostale ne vem.

Teheran bo seveda vse zanikal. Od začetka se borijo na Assadovi strani, menda so močno lobirali, da se jim pridruži še Rusija. Enostavno ne bodo povzročali problemov na tej liniji.
Vse take novičke so brezpredmetne.. Vemo, da je pri tovrstnih raketah, tako ruskih kot ameriških Tomahawkih, škarta cca 10 - 15 %, kot nasploh pri vsakem orožju... Tu je šlo zgolj zato, da Rusija pokaže da je sposobna projecirat svojo vojaško moč tudi v taktičnem smislu 2000 + Km daleč...Cilj je bil NATO in ne Sirija ali Iran... Pri vsem je bilo največje presenečenje da so lansirali rakete iz nizko izpodrivnih ladij v Kaspijskem morju... ( bojda Kitajci že kupujejo )... S samo vojno v Siriji pa to nima velike zveze, razen seveda zastraševalne...
 

Pac_Man

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En helikopter specialcev jih je pobral pred zoro. Del v perzijščini sicer omenja ostanke, ampak na slikah jih ni opazit.

No, tukaj je bil prispevek o tem:

http://takhtnews.mihanblog.com/post/3660

ampak sedaj piše samo

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na srečo sem na drugem forumu prilepil prevod, 10. okt 2015, 03:18

https://slo-tech.com/forum/t654718/p4929533

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Wednesday morning around 6 am, an unidentified flying object at 150 meters east of the village of Takab Qrqapan the city fell, the sound of the explosion was so strong that breaks down the population and the loss of several head of cattle Byshtrshyshh houses and injured two people.

After the incident, security forces on the ground immediately and the remaining parts were ridden to study better, fortunately, in spite of a few hundred meters from the location of the village and people did not much harm to it.
Customizable Parts of this unidentified flying still stay in place and some people take it with them as a souvenir.

arhiva strani na hitro ne najdem, je pa tukaj povzetek v ruščini

http://forum.butsa.ru/index.php?showtopic=331385&st=570&p=9682056&#entry9682056

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Some Iranian media reported that around Takaba really something fell at 6 am local time on Wednesday. Persian I do not understand, do not guarantee the accuracy, but there are a few photos - http://takhtnews.mihanblog.com/post/3660
If you need a translation, the report that something fell, killing a cow, sort of like two people injured (according to another publication - http://takhtnews.mihanblog.com/post/3658 - fragments of glass), security services quickly arrived and gathered all large debris. Of late I have been able to understand the message that the Iranian authorities blamed on the collapse of the drone incident. Photo debris nowhere, so check difficult. But the coincidence is quite mysterious. Is it a coincidence, or is "Caliber"?

Še razbito steklo:

http://www.ion.ir/News/17767.html
 

boomslang

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The fact that the Russian Defense Ministry has invited the military attaches of NATO countries and Saudi Arabia to justify accusations of air strikes on hospitals in Syria, told reporters on Tuesday the deputy head of the military department Anatoly Antonov.

"We have invited the military attaches of the US today, the UK, France, Germany, Italy, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, NATO and asked to give a formal justification being made statements or to make a rebuttal. This is especially true in a number of outrageous allegations in the English-speaking media psevdoudarah the hospitals "- quoted Antonov Interfax. --- Pac_Man..... Evo tvoje šanse...