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Kamele0N

YUGOslovanski mehanik Dmitri Mendeleev
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A Danilo Tuerk je bil kje opažen med množico?
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Ytbnd

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KIEV, Ukraine--Ukraine's parliament passed a bill Tuesday allowing the government to halt payments on foreign debts, raising the stakes in ongoing talks with international
creditors.
Kot kaže sedaj tega v zakonu niso imeli.
Kar pomeni ,da lahko, ne da da bodo.
 

Matey

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6. sep 2007
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Zakaj bi dodal to opcijo da se postavi vračanje tujih dolgov na pavzo v zakonik, če ne zato, da se jo izkoristi? Misliš, da so sprejeli ta zakon samo zato, da se bodo bolje počutili, ker bodo kao imeli več manevrskega prostora? So pa glupi na polno saj vsako namigovanje v to smer lahko zgolj zmanjša tujo pomoč in ne poveča.

Se pa strinjam, da to teoretično pomeni zgolj da lahko in ne da bodo sigurno to izkoristili.
 

Ytbnd

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Ima Slo,At, Nem, Zda, Fra, Rus, Gr tako zakonsko možnost ?

Npr, Gr junija zapade nov obrok posojila, fin. minister je dejal, da bodo v worst case scenariju raje dali plače/pokojnine na prvo mesto izplačil, pred IMF & ostalimi tujimi dolžniki.
 

Matey

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Kaj bi rad povedal s tem? Z vprašanjem mislim. Grčija je pa povsem primer zase oz. ni primerljiv z Ukrajino, oni bi raje še nazaj uvedli 13. in 14. plačo ter dodatke kot je tisti za pravočasen prihod na delo in podobno kot pa da bi vračali dolgove.
 

Pac_Man

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Ukrajina je že kaka dva tedna nazaj sestrelila ruskega trota, kopijo IAI Searcher-ja 2, danes so ga pokazali novinarjem. Komponente so ruske in izraelske.


Cena? Sitnica - okrog 7 milijonov $.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IAI_Searcher

Ne, Rusija nima ničesar s tem konfliktom.
 

Pac_Man

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Ruska nacionalka je objavila intervju z ženo Aleksandra Aleksandrova, enega od zajetih spetsnazovcev.


Pravi, da je njen mož iz danes na jutri pustil dobro plačano službo v specialni enoti in lepo ženo ter enostavno izginil.

Malo morgen.

Zelo morgen, ko prebereš predvčerajšnji OVSE intervju z zajetima.

http://www.osce.org/ukraine-smm/159296

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The SMM visited the two individuals currently held at the military hospital in Kyiv, who received medical treatment. The SMM spoke to the two individuals without the presence of Ukrainian authorities. The SMM assessed their general condition and gathered their accounts about their capture.

One of them said he had received military education in the Russian Federation. Both individuals claimed that they were members of a unit of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation. They claimed that they were on a reconnaissance mission. They were armed but had no orders to attack. Both of them said that they came under fire, got injured and were captured on 16 May 2015 at the contact line near Shchastya. One of them said he had received orders from his military unit to go to Ukraine; he was to “rotate” after three months. Both of them said they had been to Ukraine “on missions” before. One of them stressed repeatedly that there were no Russian troops involved in fighting in Ukraine. Both said they were provided with a Ukrainian lawyer who visited them today.

Obadva sta že bila na misiji v Ukrajini.


SBU trdi, da žena dela v kadrovski službi, v isti enoti kot mož.

http://en.glavnoe.ua/news/n226974

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So, according to him, his wife Alexandrov could not know that he has been sent to fight in the Ukraine, because it works in the personnel department of the 3rd brigade of GRU of Russia.

Sicer izvajajo soliden twitter storm s fotografijami in obtožbami na račun družine Alexandrov in fotografijami ostalih iz moževe enote.

https://twitter.com/ServiceSsu
 

Pac_Man

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@trot

Tale je bil sestreljen včeraj, tisti pred dvema tednoma je druga zgodba.
 

darjan

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Two men captured by Ukrainian troops on Saturday have confessed to being members of the Russian armed forces, a report by European mediators says.

The pair were interviewed at a military hospital in Kiev by members of the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe (OSCE).

"They were armed but had no orders to attack," the security body said.

Russia has not responded to the latest claims, but has previously said the two men were no longer serving soldiers.
 

Pac_Man

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Novaya Gazeta je opravila intervju z obema zajetima spetsnazovcema.

http://www.novayagazeta.ru/politics/68506.html




Povzetek v angleščini:

http://www.unian.info/politics...ranslation.html

Povzetek povzetka:

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...The correspondent was given an opportunity by law enforcement officials to speak with the detainees in private. The representatives of the OSCE, the Red Cross, also psychologists and lawyers have already visited the captured Russian soldiers. So far, only Russian officials have not paid a visit, although, according to international law, consular employees have the right (and actually are obliged) to do so.

...

I turned off the camera a couple of times, leaving only a voice recorder running, as I was just not able to film some [emotional] things. For example, the moment when Sergeant Aleksandrov could not hold back his tears after learning from me of the episode aired on [Russian state-controlled TV channel] Rossiya24 where his wife Katerina said that Alexander had been dismissed from the military service in December 2014 and that she did not know about him going to the Donbas.

- Tell me, why is that? All I had was an order, I am no terrorist... there was an order! I gave an oath to my Homeland!.. How old are you?

- Twenty eight.

- Well, we are the same age. I don’t know if you served. But you are Russian, too, we are sort of fellow countrymen. Tell me, how could this all be? ... Why would they disown us?

- I don’t know...

- We had a mission! And that episode you told about, on the TV, what is it about? Is it my wife there or her picture?

- I think that was her who was telling about you.

- Well, maybe it was only a picture of her?! (Alexandrov covers his face with a towel). - Why would she say such things?!

- Maybe that’s not exactly her.

- Then who ?!

- I'm sure, she still loves you, and she probably said this against her will.

- But why?! I swore an oath!... We have been together, in one [military] unit...

I don’t know how to react to that. I don’t know what to say. At the end of the interview Alexandrov asks again to pass his love to Katerina. While I was walking out of the hospital ward, the sergeant buries his face in a paper towel with tears in his eyes.

Aleksandrov prizna, da je delal skupaj z ženo.

Čisto slučajno so danes izpustili Oleg-a Kuzminykh-a, ki je bil v ujetništvu od zadnjih dni bojev za letališče. Znan je postal z "dont give a flying f.." odnosom do Givijevih žaljivk in udarcev.

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Miracles do happen when you have leverage.
 

darjan

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The EU has agreed a €1.8bn (£1.3bn; $2bn) loan to Ukraine - described as a landmark deal for a non-EU member.

The agreement was signed at an EU summit in Riga, Latvia, with the leaders of six post-Soviet nations.
 
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Izbrisan uporabnik #488

Čas je, da se začne pohod do Kieva, fašizem spwt grozi človeštvu, tudi Sloveniji...
 

Pac_Man

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