Matter over Thread
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Tisti, ki uporabljate tako ZigBee kot Thread naprave, kako imate zrihtano glede routerjev? Za vsak protokol posebej, kakšen z dvema integriranima ala Sonoff?
Zaenkrat imam samo ZWave naprave, bom pa v kratkem dodal kakšno Thread zadevo iz Ikee, pa razmišljam, ali nabaviti 1x ZBT-2 ali kar 2x, posebej za Thread in ZigBee ...
Tisti, ki uporabljate tako ZigBee kot Thread naprave, kako imate zrihtano glede routerjev? Za vsak protokol posebej, kakšen z dvema integriranima ala Sonoff?
Zaenkrat imam samo ZWave naprave, bom pa v kratkem dodal kakšno Thread zadevo iz Ikee, pa razmišljam, ali nabaviti 1x ZBT-2 ali kar 2x, posebej za Thread in ZigBee ...
Za zigbee imam sonoff ZBDongle-E za matter pa zbt-2.
Zbt-2 sem nabavil dobre pol leta nazaj in na začetku ni delovalo najboljše, v vmesnem času pa so ga že toliko spedenali da nimam nobenih težav več in mi deluje boljše kot zigbee, sploh kar se tiče hitrosti pri odzivu najbolj oddaljenih senzorjev.
Zbt-2 sem nabavil dobre pol leta nazaj in na začetku ni delovalo najboljše, v vmesnem času pa so ga že toliko spedenali da nimam nobenih težav več in mi deluje boljše kot zigbee, sploh kar se tiče hitrosti pri odzivu najbolj oddaljenih senzorjev.
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zbt2 - gre ali matter ali Zigbee - ne oboje hkrati. So sicer na začetku “obljubljali”, a sami prišli gor, da ne špila.
Tak, da, če res misliš oba protokola bo treba 2 - jaz bi za Zigbee vzel Sonoff. Če gnar ni tema pa 2x zbt2.
zbt2 - gre ali matter ali Zigbee - ne oboje hkrati. So sicer na začetku “obljubljali”, a sami prišli gor, da ne špila.
Tak, da, če res misliš oba protokola bo treba 2 - jaz bi za Zigbee vzel Sonoff. Če gnar ni tema pa 2x zbt2.
Če pozorno prebereš moj post, sem že napisal da bi kupil 2x ZBT-2 (za vsak protokol posebej).
Nočem napenjati - a če sam pozorno prebereš svoj post, boš videl, da se ga da razumeti tako in tako.
Hotel sem le odstraniti zadnji dvom in namigniti, da ni potrebe po 2 X zbt2, če bi slučajno € bil faktor.
Je pa vsekakor 2 X zbt2 boljša rešitev.
Sam še jajcam z Matter - predvsem, ker ni vse tako zeleno kot je na prvi pogled videti. Zelo veliko Matter naprav namreč preko “čistega” / odprtega matter protokola nima vseh funkcij, kot jih ima, če napravo povežeš preko vendor bridga.
Hotel sem le odstraniti zadnji dvom in namigniti, da ni potrebe po 2 X zbt2, če bi slučajno € bil faktor.
Je pa vsekakor 2 X zbt2 boljša rešitev.
Sam še jajcam z Matter - predvsem, ker ni vse tako zeleno kot je na prvi pogled videti. Zelo veliko Matter naprav namreč preko “čistega” / odprtega matter protokola nima vseh funkcij, kot jih ima, če napravo povežeš preko vendor bridga.
Maš kakšne konkretne primere?
Sam imam namreč tudi ZBT-2 in Home Assistant in veliko Ikea Matter naprav pa me zanima če zamujam kaj "pomembnega".
Sipam se pepelom ... - so očitno že precej "polovili" in ni več taki razkorak, kot še kako leto nazaj - očitno bom moral spet malo bolj resno za Matter pogledati.
Ko sem spremljal je bilo za presence senzorje precej običajno da je v HA prišlo samo yes/no - vsi "cukrčki" cone itd, pa samo preko vendor huba.
Se še enkrat opravičujem - sem bil prehiter in z prestarimi informacijami.
Ko sem spremljal je bilo za presence senzorje precej običajno da je v HA prišlo samo yes/no - vsi "cukrčki" cone itd, pa samo preko vendor huba.
Se še enkrat opravičujem - sem bil prehiter in z prestarimi informacijami.
https://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?subaction=showfull&id=1788845801
With AmbiScape, the TV's Ambilight mood lighting effect while playing games, watching movies or series or while listening to music can be wirelessly extended to E27 smart bulbs from Wiz, NanoLeaf, Hue and Ikea. Currently, up to four lamps can be connected via Matter-over-WiFi.
AmbiScape can extend the Ambilight effect from the TV to external lamps in the living room. Photo: Flatpanels, IFA 2026, Berlin
- "As the next step, TP Vision plans to introduce Matter over Thread support and certification in the first half of 2027. The feature is scheduled to debut on 2027 Philips Ambilight TV models before being rolled out to compatible 2026 models. Matter over Thread support will broaden compatibility with additional smart-lighting products. TP Vision is also exploring raising the current limit of four connected lights," the company said.
Thread is a network protocol that uses far less power than WiFi. Thread can be built directly into the lamps and does not require an additional hub – a Philips Hue hub is therefore no longer necessary. Instead, Thread strengthens the connected home connection as more Thread devices are added by building a mesh network.
Matter-over-Thread should also further reduce latency when external lamps in the living room link to Ambilight on Philips TVs.
With AmbiScape, the TV's Ambilight mood lighting effect while playing games, watching movies or series or while listening to music can be wirelessly extended to E27 smart bulbs from Wiz, NanoLeaf, Hue and Ikea. Currently, up to four lamps can be connected via Matter-over-WiFi.
AmbiScape can extend the Ambilight effect from the TV to external lamps in the living room. Photo: Flatpanels, IFA 2026, BerlinMatter-over-Thread
At last week's IFA show in Berlin, Philips revealed some details about next year's plans, which will significantly expand AmbiScape:- "As the next step, TP Vision plans to introduce Matter over Thread support and certification in the first half of 2027. The feature is scheduled to debut on 2027 Philips Ambilight TV models before being rolled out to compatible 2026 models. Matter over Thread support will broaden compatibility with additional smart-lighting products. TP Vision is also exploring raising the current limit of four connected lights," the company said.
Thread is a network protocol that uses far less power than WiFi. Thread can be built directly into the lamps and does not require an additional hub – a Philips Hue hub is therefore no longer necessary. Instead, Thread strengthens the connected home connection as more Thread devices are added by building a mesh network.
Support for more lamps next year
Flatpanels heard talk at IFA of support for up to 10 lamps over Thread, as opposed to four lamps today, but Philips stressed that the expanded AmbiScape specification is not yet finalized.Matter-over-Thread should also further reduce latency when external lamps in the living room link to Ambilight on Philips TVs.
