Izrael - Palestina
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Ne dasta ga zato ker je realnost popolnoma drugačna in v njen ne moreta obtoževati Hamasa. Realnost je takšna da so palestninci po 3 mesecih izraelske blokade uvoza hrane vdrli v skladišče združenih narodov v katerem so razdeljevali hrano.
Four Palestinians die in storming of UN food warehouse a day after gunfire at new Gaza aid site
Hundreds of Palestinians stormed a United Nations food warehouse in Gaza in a desperate attempt to get something to eat.
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Zaradi tega imamo Hamas:
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Izrael napovedal širjenje naselbin na zasedenem Zahodnem bregu
Izraelski varnostni kabinet je odobril gradnjo 22 novih naselbin na zasedenem Zahodnem bregu, je sporočila vladajoča stranka Likud. Zunanji minister Izrael Kac je dejal, da s tem "preprečujejo ustanovitev palestinske države, ki bi ogrozila Izrael".
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Dajte nehat s temi tisočjeja nazaj starimi mejami. A potem še avstrijo pa madžarsko narišemo nazaj do Dubrovnika, ali je bolje Da Italjani kot nasledniki rimskega cesarstva zahtevajo nazaj celotno sredozemlje?
Meje med državami se določajo s silo. Ni drugega recepta.
Pri Izraelu je specifika, ker imaš na eni strani državo, na drugi pa narod, ki ni uspel pravi čas formirati države. Zamudili so krepko število desetletij. Ko je bil primeren čas, so se preveč zanašali na arabske sosede, ki pa niso nikoli videli potrebe po tem, da bi Palestinci imeli svojo državo, temveč priložnost, da svojo državo razširijo. Verjetno pa v takratni plemenski ureditvi naroda sploh ni bilo realnih možnosti, da postavijo svojo kolikor toliko enotno politično strukturo.
Pri Izraelu je specifika, ker imaš na eni strani državo, na drugi pa narod, ki ni uspel pravi čas formirati države. Zamudili so krepko število desetletij. Ko je bil primeren čas, so se preveč zanašali na arabske sosede, ki pa niso nikoli videli potrebe po tem, da bi Palestinci imeli svojo državo, temveč priložnost, da svojo državo razširijo. Verjetno pa v takratni plemenski ureditvi naroda sploh ni bilo realnih možnosti, da postavijo svojo kolikor toliko enotno politično strukturo.
Poliična struktura Paestincev je bila že enotna doker je ni Izael z bombani počistil, vsakič znova.
BS. Palestinci so precej najebali zato, ker so so njihove politične strukture skregane. PLO proti Hamasu in podobne finte. Hamas je bil vedno pripravljen vreči lasten narod pod avtobus za svoje interese in dotok denarja. Še Izraelci z Netanjahujem na čelu so ga podpirali, ker je PLO hotela lastno državo, Hamas pa niti ne. Potem je pa Hamas tudi s pomočjo nasilja uničil opozicijo v Gazi in prerastel vse okvirje in začel ogrožati Izrael. Reakcija ne vse to je Gaza v ruševinah, kar gledamo danes. Izraelci so že dolgo iskali razlog za dokončno rešitev Gaze. Hamas jim jo je prinesel na pladnju. Pa imamo Endlösung, izraelsko verzijo.
BS? Ali dobra politika Izraela?
‘Buying Quiet’: Inside the Israeli Plan That Propped Up Hamas
"Just weeks before Hamas launched the deadly Oct. 7 attacks on Israel, the head of Mossad arrived in Doha, Qatar, for a meeting with Qatari officials.
For years, the Qatari government had been sending millions of dollars a month into the Gaza Strip — money that helped prop up the Hamas government there. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel not only tolerated those payments, he had encouraged them.
During his meetings in September with the Qatari officials, according to several people familiar with the secret discussions, the Mossad chief, David Barnea, was asked a question that had not been on the agenda: Did Israel want the payments to continue?
Mr. Netanyahu’s government had recently decided to continue the policy, so Mr. Barnea said yes. The Israeli government still welcomed the money from Doha.
Allowing the payments — billions of dollars over roughly a decade — was a gamble by Mr. Netanyahu that a steady flow of money would maintain peace in Gaza, the eventual launching point of the Oct. 7 attacks, and keep Hamas focused on governing, not fighting."
‘Buying Quiet’: Inside the Israeli Plan That Propped Up Hamas
"Just weeks before Hamas launched the deadly Oct. 7 attacks on Israel, the head of Mossad arrived in Doha, Qatar, for a meeting with Qatari officials.
For years, the Qatari government had been sending millions of dollars a month into the Gaza Strip — money that helped prop up the Hamas government there. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel not only tolerated those payments, he had encouraged them.
During his meetings in September with the Qatari officials, according to several people familiar with the secret discussions, the Mossad chief, David Barnea, was asked a question that had not been on the agenda: Did Israel want the payments to continue?
Mr. Netanyahu’s government had recently decided to continue the policy, so Mr. Barnea said yes. The Israeli government still welcomed the money from Doha.
Allowing the payments — billions of dollars over roughly a decade — was a gamble by Mr. Netanyahu that a steady flow of money would maintain peace in Gaza, the eventual launching point of the Oct. 7 attacks, and keep Hamas focused on governing, not fighting."
BS je, da je Izrael vsakič z bombami počistil politično strukturo Palestincev. PLOja in Abasa ni nič počistil.