Hawking bo iskal nezemljane

jtfc

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darjan

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Če boš imel zaradi tega boljšo jakno, bo to še najmanj pomembna stvar, ki bo prišla od tam "na plano".

V igri so veliko večje stvari, kot vsakdanji materiali za navadnega smrtnika.
 

jtfc

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Prov imaš, če bi imel črno luknjo namesto skreta, odpade kanalizacija.


 

dodaske

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Kot sem že nikolikokrat omenil.....ko nekdo prosto v svojem interesu neko teorijo ali nekoga obtoži teorije zarote, vem da moram globlje pogledati v zadevo....

"The average survival time for ALS is four years. When Hawking was first diagnosed in 1963, doctors
gave him two years to live. And yet here we are, 52 years later and counting. Should you believe it?"

Simpel.....pa to ni ena zadeva.....je pa dovolj zame


Hvala bogu....da se ljudje začenjajo zavedat, da znanost ni imuna za korupcijo...konc koncev to zavedanje pomaga znanosti in človeštvu....

Sem se spreševal...kako se lahko zaščitimo pred korupcijo na zelo zahtevnih področjih, kot je znanost ....Zelo težko...zelo težko...
 

darjan

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Sicer se je spet zašlo v off in s tem se že uničuje čisto normalno temo...

Ali ipak..potem ti je tudi zarota v Magic Johnsonu, on tudi nima HIVa? Ali pa tista deklica ki se je rodila pred 12 leti s HIV, ki je potem čudežno izginil in zdaj je že 12 let "brez"?
 

jest5

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Malo ga matra razumevanje, kaj češ.
The average survival time

Ali če kopiram iz strani posvečene ALS

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Although the life expectancy of a person with ALS averages about two to five years from the time of diagnosis, this disease is variable, and many people can live with the disease for five years and more. More than half of all people with ALS live more than three years after diagnosis.
About twenty percent of people with ALS live five years or more and up to 10 percent will survive more than ten years and five percent will live 20 years .
In še glavna zarota

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There are people in whom ALS has stopped progressing, and a small number of people in whom the symptoms of ALS reversed
 
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darjan

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Malo me sicer čudi, ali pa tudi ne, je sploh prebral moj linkan članek, da ni omenil te zarote?

The Breakthrough Listen project, backed by Russian Silicon Valley entrepreneur Yuri Milner, will be the most powerful, comprehensive and intensive scientific search ever undertaken for signs of extra-terrestrial intelligent life.

Torej NASA zarota sodeluje z rusijo, hudiča...dvojna zarota?
 

dodaske

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Uporabnik jest5 pravi:
Malo ga matra razumevanje, kaj češ.
The average survival time

Ali če kopiram iz strani posvečene ALS

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Although the life expectancy of a person with ALS averages about two to five years from the time of diagnosis, this disease is variable, and many people can live with the disease for five years and more. More than half of all people with ALS live more than three years after diagnosis.
About twenty percent of people with ALS live five years or more and up to 10 percent will survive more than ten years and five percent will live 20 years .
In še glavna zarota

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There are people in whom ALS has stopped progressing, and a small number of people in whom the symptoms of ALS reversed
He he...namenoma sem pustil odprto max let preživetja....Dragi moj...52 let za Hawkija in 20 let za zmagovalca!? In ti se še ujameš na to....in niti blinkneš ne ?? To je bolezen veš...neozdravljiva veš...

Tole je zmagovalno:



"This confusion is
created on purpose, because it prevents most people from making any sense of the news. Confusing
news prevents questions—perhaps surprisingly—because it causes most people's brains to shut down.
You would think confusing news would create questions, and in a few people it still does. But in the
majority of people, very confusing news acts as its own shield. If enough confusion is created, the
reader or viewer will just see a tangled web he has no hope of unwinding, causing him to accept
whatever he is told and “move on.”"
 

jest5

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5% jih živi okoli 20 let. Nekaj % jih živi 20+ let.
In če bi slučajno znal brati( There are people in whom ALS has stopped progressing, and a small number of people in whom the symptoms of ALS reversed ), bi mogoče pogruntal, da se pri določenih napredovanje bolezni popolnoma ustavi, pri parih pa se stanje celo popravi.

Komedija je v tem, da imaš sebe za nekega razsvetljenca, ki "vidi več", a dejansko padaš na same neumnosti
 

dodaske

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Uporabnik jest5 pravi:
5% jih živi okoli 20 let. Nekaj % jih živi 20+ let.
In če bi slučajno znal brati( There are people in whom ALS has stopped progressing, and a small number of people in whom the symptoms of ALS reversed ), bi mogoče pogruntal, da se pri določenih napredovanje bolezni popolnoma ustavi, pri parih pa se stanje celo popravi.

Komedija je v tem, da imaš sebe za nekega razsvetljenca, ki "vidi več", a dejansko padaš na same neumnosti
Dragi moj....Hawkiju je bolezen napredovala v zadnji stadij že v 80-ih....skoraj bi umrl od plučnice.... Sicer pa....ali ne bi bil tisti, ki bi mu zastala bolezen dejansko najdlje živeči z ALS boleznijo? Jep....Torej max 20 je tisti, ki je imel zastoj in ne tisti z 52 let.....

Dejmo mal uporabit logiko....3-5 let povprečno. Torej max 20 let je 4 krat toliko kot povprečje. 52 let je 10 krat od povprečja...



Verjemi....Hawki bi bil bolj znan kot NAJDLE ŠE ŽIVEČI Z ALS in ne samo kot teoretik...Le zakaj?....točno zato....
 

jest5

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Pa da se ne trudiš z nadalnim iskanjem neumnosti, ti malo polinkam :

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Has he lived so long because he got the disease when he was young and had the juvenile-onset type?

Juvenile-onset is diagnosed in the teenage years, and I don't know enough about his course to say. But it's probably something similar to juvenile-onset disorder, which is something that progresses very, very, very slowly. I have patients in my clinic who were diagnosed in their teens and are still alive in their 40s, 50s or 60s. But not having ever examined him or taken a history, it's a little hard for me to say.

He's a very good example of the sparing of the non-motor parts of the brain that can occur.
Opala, kaj pa je to? Ta dohtar ima ALS pacjente, ki imajo ALS 40+ let. Ah neee, to bo zihr zarota


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How frequent are these cases of very slow-progressing forms of ALS?

I would say probably less than a few percent
Ma laže, zihr


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How much do you think Stephen Hawking's longevity has been due to the excellent care that he has received versus the biology of his particular form of ALS?
It's probably a little bit of both. I just know him from television, so I don't know what kind of interventions he's had. If he really isn't on a ventilator, then it's his biology—it's the biology of his form of the neurodegenerative disease that determines how long he will live. For trouble swallowing you can elect to have a feeding tube placed, which basically takes malnutrition and dehydration off the table. But mostly it's about the biology of the disease
Ja, če si slaven, tudi malo bolje skrbijo zate in preživiš dlje.
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What does Stephen Hawking's case mean for people who have the disease?
It's just an incredible, incredible example of the variability of the disease—and the hope for patients who have it that they could also live a long life. Unfortunately, it's a small percentage of people for whom that actually happens
Žal


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