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H19ED

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• #401

Uporabnik masevc je napisal:

po padoku Je zaokrozil link do gdrivea z vsemi podrobnostmi. Vsi so vse dobili v vpogled.

najbolje da se Horner vgrezne v zemljo

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Dvomim da so kakšni resnični podatki, danes lahko narediš preko Al dobre predalave. Si pa ne predstavljam, da bi bili resnični podatki, potem bo nenormalna bomba za RBR.


Še en long-run na FP2, seveda na C3 gumah. Dirka bo na C1-C2

 

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darjan

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Ni se konec

Horner bomb explodes again: Dark clouds roll over again

It seemed like the story had finished: Christian Horner was back in the F1 paddock. Yet another bomb has exploded. An email with photos and screenshots of suspected conversations has been leaked, and a statement from Horner himself followed.

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H19ED

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Ma to vse smrdi, 99% je fake. Meni se počasi dozdeva, da poteka notranji boj za oblast pri RBR-ju.




Še ena zanimiva izjava iz Reddita.

It’s reported to be a power struggle after Dietrich’s death

In the past Dietrich had an active but remote and far removed interest in Red Bull F1 as he didn't like to attend races. His friend Marko was his representative at races and also in charge of the driver program whilst Horner ran the Red Bull team.

when it came to big picture ideas and decisions like drivers; Horner and Marko decided together. For a non driver example it was reported that Marko and Horner together decided to take on the Honda engine and run it as a Red Bull engine. They went to Dietrich to sell him on the idea and have him sign off on it.

The problem is when you have 2 people deciding something together, what happens when you disagree? The old answer was take it to Dietrich and let Dietrich make the final say.

Now that Dietrich is dead if Marko and Horner disagree who makes the final say? His death meant the joint power/ joint decision making was no longer tenable and according to reports Horner tried to get the backing from the Thai owners (who like Horner) to take over these decisions solely, sidestepping Marko.

However this failed and Marko extended his contract with the new corporate management in Austria.

when it comes to the Verstappen's : Max is reported to be fine with both of them but is more loyal to Marko than Horner so if it comes down to a choice he would stick with Marko. And there are reports Jos and Horner had a falling out. So Jos is very much on Marko’s side in the power struggle.

Then to complicate things further; Though Dietrich had a 49% share of the company he signed a deal with the Thai owners of the other 51% to have full control of the company and decision making. So Dietrich really did have sole authority over everything.

However while his son inherited the 49% shares, the deal of full control did not transfer to his son. That expired with Dietrich’s death.

And so management over Red Bull GmbH is more complicated. The Thai owners, the Yoovidhya’s own the majority shares and are now no longer restrained from making decisions.

Add on to this the fact that Mark Matechitz may have inherited the 49% shares but is not the CEO. There are now CEOs for the beverage side and the marketing/sports side. So the running of the company in Austria has become far more corporate. With some reports saying that Oliver Mintzlaff one of the CEO’s wants more control over the F1 team.

and so you have two power struggles,

1 in Red Bull F1 Between Christian vs Marko and Austria HQ

1 in Red Bull GMBH where the Austrian senior management are now uncertain how much the Thai Majority shareholders want to interfere and manage themselves.

as a result Horner and the Thai owners seem naturally aligned and they support Horner- Its worth noting it was the Thai owners that arranged and hired the independent barrister to investigate Horner - not the Austrian HQ.

All in all the removal of Dietrich’s unchallenged, unquestioned running of the company when he died has led to uncertainty and instability in Red Bull and a power vacuum.

 

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masevc

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Horner bo moral iti. Ne pozabiti da Ford pritiska na njih.

Ce pa Ford gre, so pa brez motorja (sponzorja) 2026.

Ali pa kuhajo in zelijo prodati RBR Fordu.

 

DOHC

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Kr tak confusing fp2. Sm mislu da bomo glih na fp2 vidl kje je kdo, k je več gume na stezi pa ni več sonca. Ampak rbr zihr ni tam kjer kaže rezultat fp2. K drugač se lohk še Haas za štenge bori Bo pa na dirki rbr žval, k očitno je avto noro prijazen do gum. Race pace deluje daleč najboljši. Zna bit zanimiv qualy.

 

sajkek

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• #406

ima kdo mail?

 

H19ED

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Uporabnik DOHC je napisal:

Kr tak confusing fp2. Sm mislu da bomo glih na fp2 vidl kje je kdo, k je več gume na stezi pa ni več sonca. Ampak rbr zihr ni tam kjer kaže rezultat fp2. K drugač se lohk še Haas za štenge bori Bo pa na dirki rbr žval, k očitno je avto noro prijazen do gum. Race pace deluje daleč najboljši. Zna bit zanimiv qualy.

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Če primerjamo 2023 in 2024, so si letos precej bližje. Imam občutek da je Mclaren največ napredoval, čeprav statistike kažejo da je Mercedes naredil največji napredek. Ferrari pa pa tudi rešil problem glede gum, vsaj tako je zgledalo. Lani so imeli nenormalno obrato na testiranju in potem tekom sezone.

 

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darjan

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https://www.reddit.com/r/formuladank/comments/1b34dtn
Hahahaha…to bi naj bilo to?

 

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• 1. mar 2024

• #409

no kaj je blo torej s Hornerjem? je vsaj namočil? in kje je slika babe?

ajmo alter

 

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darjan

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Glede na ta chat se je zelo amatersko lotil zadeve, človek bi si mislil da nekdo ki je zahaklal spice girl obvlada flirting, pa je na nivoju amaterja tole izpadlo.

ni čudno, da ni hotel da pride v javnost...ni ravno nek player ta horner...

 

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• #411

dolgo si rabo.

 

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darjan

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Ja krščen duš če so vsi tako delalo, kot da je ne vem kaj bilo, zaradi tega bi deca nogirali? saj niste resni no...

 

tomi

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je pa smešno ko bo drugi najbolj woke v f1 odletel zarad tega.

 

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darjan

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ma ja, a tam imaš zakonca wolf ki imata čiste znake korupcije, pa se enostavno pomete pod preprogo...

 

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H19ED

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Uporabnik darjan je napisal:

ma ja, a tam imaš zakonca wolf ki imata čiste znake korupcije, pa se enostavno pomete pod preprogo...

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Prosim za preverjenje vire, kjer se je dogajala korupcija. Zgleda bo čas, da FIA stopi med RBR in Hornerja, da vidijo kaj se res dogaja. Potem pa naj rečejo, ni kriv ali pa je kriv in je stvar zaključena v F1.


Na redditu bi ti napisali ¨ don't trolling¨, če nimaš preverjenje vire. Isto sranje kot pri Hornerju, samo da RBR noče povedati, za kaj se je dejansko šlo in to je SLABO za F1

 

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darjan

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Kaj te ma fia s hornerjevo kurbarijo?

 

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darjan

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Hamilton raving about new W15: 'Truly a race car'

Lewis Hamilton is driving a 'real race car' in his final year for Mercedes. The Brit finished the second free practice at the very top of the timesheet, and is enthusiastic. The man who has already become a seven-time Formula One world champion explains why he likes the W15 better than the...

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Carsko bi bilo da bi blm spet jamral v nedeljo

 

H19ED

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• #418

Uporabnik darjan je napisal:

Kaj te ma fia s hornerjevo kurbarijo?

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Trenutno še nič, RBR je pa tudi amatersko zapisal končno izjavo. Stvar še ni zaključena... Škoda je narejena...


A ti si ga na roke drgneš, ko vidiš Hamilton izjave? Na long run nimajo možnosti, trenutno je RBR najmočnejši in tako bo čez sezono. Bo pa zanimiva borba med 2-4 mestom.

Nismo niti blizu Red Bullu

Na drugem treningu sta Mercedesa presenetljivo osvojila vrh, Hamilton pa opozarja, da niso niti približno blizu Red Bullu.

f1.avtomanija.com

 

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darjan

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Windsor notices something striking when comparing Norris and Verstappen. "They're about the same, but bear in mind, Lando's on soft tyres. And actually, middle of Turn 10, Max is quicker. His minimum speed is 78 kilometres an hour. Lando Norris is 75 kilometres an hour. And even more significantly, Max is in third gear and Lando in second gear," the analyst explains in a YouTube video on his channel.

"Again, you can't compare the two cars directly because they may well have different ratios. Second in the McLaren may not equal second in the Red Bull. But bear in mind, Max is on the harder tyre and in theory has less grip," the 71-year-old said.

 

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• #420

A pri rdečih so menjali stratege ali lahko pričakujemo isto "pakovanje" kot prej? Edina svetla točka je bila tista zmaga Sainza, res pa da predvsem tudi zaradi karakteristik proge.