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Lep poskus izmikanja odgovoru preko relativizacije in whataboutisma. Pričakovano.
visek_izobrazbe
Guru
predvidevam da si pozabil na 800 milijard vreden obrambni proračun
Če spremljaš samo iz RU kanalov, potem je res, niti 0.1% se ni poznalo RU.
-Od kje bomo pa teh 800 miljard vzeli, da jih bomo prerazporedili v obrambni proračun?
- Noben politik še ni povedal, da bo teh miljard namenjeno v Ukrajino, ampak pravijo da bo šlo v našo industrijo.
- dosedanji 20x višji obrambni proračun zahoda v primerjavi z Rusijo, Ukrajini ni zagotovil prednosti, ker ukrajinci rabijo motibirane vojake, ki jih nimajo dovolj.
- Pozabil si, da se ZDA počasi umika iz vojaške pomoči Ukrajini, in bodo te EU miljarde samo nadomestilo za izgubo ameriških miljard. Na krartko, EU bo prevzela dosedanjo Ameriško pomoč nase.
Saj ne pravimo zastonj, : Ameriki rudnine, Rusiji ozemlje, Ukrajini Slava, EU pa dolgovi in plačilo računov.
visek_izobrazbe
Guru
model iz davkov in ja v obrambni proračun gredo, malo poslušaj liderje. To da se usa umikajo ni nč narobe, mamo fabrike ki delajo top vojaške produkte... Ukrajina bo pa poleg slave zagotovo dobila še kaj drugega.
Kdo je že rekel, da bo vsaka ponudba iz ZDA slabša? Sporazum velja za nedoločen čas, čez 10 let lahko ZDA ali pa UA odstopi ali spremeni sporazum.
Najbolj zanimivo je pa to, da je Trump po sporazumu na hitro odboril neposredno komercialno prodajo orožja Ukrajini.
1.
Before: Ukraine's mineral resources were to be transferred to U.S. ownership until full compensation of $500 billion was repaid (Feb 17, The Telegraph).
After: Ukraine's mineral resources remain under Ukraine's ownership.
2.
Before: Ukraine contributed 67% of the revenues to the investment fund, the U.S. contributed 33%, and kept the rest (Feb 22, Radio NV).
After: Contribution is split 50/50. Fair and equal.
2a.
Before: The U.S. had 3 board members in the investment fund, Ukraine had 2; the U.S. had a majority when making decisions (Mar 27, Yaroslav Zheleznyak).
After: Neither side holds a majority. (Presumably 3:3).
3.
Before: The U.S. hinted at interest in privatizing "Ukrnafta" and "Energoatom."
After: Ukraine's national assets are protected -- no privatization of "Ukrnafta" or "Energoatom."
4.
Before: Ukraine was expected to repay the U.S. for aid provided since 2022 (Mar 27, Yaroslav Zheleznyak).
After: No debts. The U.S. can invest and earn profits, but Ukraine has no retroactive obligations
5.
Before: The agreement contradicted Ukraine's path toward EU accession (Mar 27, Yaroslav Zheleznyak).
After: The agreement complies with Ukraine's Constitution and does not conflict with EU accession.
(Details of this point are not disclosed -- possibly the U.S. no longer has "first rights" over Ukrainian resources, or the issue lies elsewhere.)
6.
Before: Ukraine paid 50% of CURRENT income from its resources (Mar 27, Yaroslav Zheleznyak).
After: Ukraine contributes 50% of income from NEW investments in resources, oil, and gas. All revenue from current resources remains unchanged
7.
Targeted and limited changes are allowed. The agreement must be ratified by the Verkhovna Rada.
8.
The U.S. will help attract additional investments and technology. The fund is managed by the U.S. International Development Finance Corporation (DFC).
9.
The agreement provides tax guarantees. Income and contributions to the Fund are exempt from taxation.
There is also a sub-clause allowing Fund contributions not only in cash but also in the equivalent value of new weapons delivered to Ukraine (though this is not guaranteed).
Ukraine is also negotiating a ban on withdrawing funds from the Fund during the first 10 years -- meaning the profits would be reinvested in new projects instead of being pocketed.
Najbolj zanimivo je pa to, da je Trump po sporazumu na hitro odboril neposredno komercialno prodajo orožja Ukrajini.
1.
Before: Ukraine's mineral resources were to be transferred to U.S. ownership until full compensation of $500 billion was repaid (Feb 17, The Telegraph).
After: Ukraine's mineral resources remain under Ukraine's ownership.
2.
Before: Ukraine contributed 67% of the revenues to the investment fund, the U.S. contributed 33%, and kept the rest (Feb 22, Radio NV).
After: Contribution is split 50/50. Fair and equal.
2a.
Before: The U.S. had 3 board members in the investment fund, Ukraine had 2; the U.S. had a majority when making decisions (Mar 27, Yaroslav Zheleznyak).
After: Neither side holds a majority. (Presumably 3:3).
3.
Before: The U.S. hinted at interest in privatizing "Ukrnafta" and "Energoatom."
After: Ukraine's national assets are protected -- no privatization of "Ukrnafta" or "Energoatom."
4.
Before: Ukraine was expected to repay the U.S. for aid provided since 2022 (Mar 27, Yaroslav Zheleznyak).
After: No debts. The U.S. can invest and earn profits, but Ukraine has no retroactive obligations
5.
Before: The agreement contradicted Ukraine's path toward EU accession (Mar 27, Yaroslav Zheleznyak).
After: The agreement complies with Ukraine's Constitution and does not conflict with EU accession.
(Details of this point are not disclosed -- possibly the U.S. no longer has "first rights" over Ukrainian resources, or the issue lies elsewhere.)
6.
Before: Ukraine paid 50% of CURRENT income from its resources (Mar 27, Yaroslav Zheleznyak).
After: Ukraine contributes 50% of income from NEW investments in resources, oil, and gas. All revenue from current resources remains unchanged
7.
Targeted and limited changes are allowed. The agreement must be ratified by the Verkhovna Rada.
8.
The U.S. will help attract additional investments and technology. The fund is managed by the U.S. International Development Finance Corporation (DFC).
9.
The agreement provides tax guarantees. Income and contributions to the Fund are exempt from taxation.
There is also a sub-clause allowing Fund contributions not only in cash but also in the equivalent value of new weapons delivered to Ukraine (though this is not guaranteed).
Ukraine is also negotiating a ban on withdrawing funds from the Fund during the first 10 years -- meaning the profits would be reinvested in new projects instead of being pocketed.