Vista=>XP povezava

maskwoz

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Pozdravljeni!

Mogoče je bilo vprašanje že postavljeno pa vendar:
Imam delovno skupino računalnikov v XP-jih(switch) sedaj bi se rad povezal v to skupino z visto via switch.
Nikakor se mi ne uspe povezati z visot v to skupino.

Mogoče pozna odgovor kdo od vas.

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stein

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ping dela ?
Kje točno se zatakne ?
Molil si ?
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maskwoz

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Za ping nisem siguren kako se preveri dej mi prosim povej ter še mogoče kaj drugega. Jst sm se samo povezal na switch lučka na switchu je začela utripat na visti pa nč od nč. [censored].


Molim vsako jutro za fruštek za kolsilo in večerjo.
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stein

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Start menu / Command prompt

Ukaz ipconfig ti izpiše IP naslov računalnika:
Koda:
Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

        Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . : hermes.si
        IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.1.3.22   <---------------
        Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0
Subnet Mask mora na vseh PC-jih biti enak.
Prednji del IP Address (tisti, ki se ujema z 255 iz netmask) mora tudi biti enak na vseh. Zadnji del pa različen na vseh.

Ukaz : ping 1.2.3.4
Preveri povezljivost z PC-ja s PC-jem, ki ima podani naslov. Najprej preveri tudi za isti PC (da se navadiš delovanja, da vidiš kaj je pravi rezultat itd....).

Če ne dela (izpiše "Ni odziva" oz "Request timed out.") potem preveri firewall-e na vseh vpletenih PC-jih. Dovoli odziv na ping. Ali kar izklopi celoten firewall (tačas lahko prekineš povezavo v internet, da bo ziher....).

Ko in šele ko to dela, lahko gremo možgansko kirurgijo ...
 

maskwoz

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jou !

Subnet mask imam na vseh compih 255.255.255.0 pri pingu pa kljub izključenem firewallom REQUEST TIMED OUT
tako da ne vem.

Ko se z visto priključim na switch lahko dostopam do interneta računalnikov v delovni skupini pa ne vidim.
 

asko

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A pa si na visti pod omrežnimi nastavitvami (SREDIŠČE ZA OMREŽJE) vključil opcijo ODKRIVANJE OMREŽJA
 

stein

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Glej, poženi IFCONFIG/ALL , v meniju (ikonica v zgornjem levem kotu okna) izberi "Edit/Mark", z miško (levi gumb) označi tekst in potem klikni gor z desno tipko.

Potem z Paste (ctrl-V) prilepi besedilo semle.

Isto naredi za ping.
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maskwoz

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Microsoft Windows [Version 6.0.6000]
Copyright (c) 2006 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

C:\Users\MASKWOZ>cd\

C:\>ipconfig/all

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : MASKWOZ-PC
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : local.lan

Wireless LAN adapter Wireless Network Connection:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Con
nection
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-1B-77-13-78-ED
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : local.lan
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8168/8111 Family PCI-E Gigabit
Ethernet NIC (NDIS 6.0)
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-1A-92-F0-08-41
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::405:b3c:35d6:a466%9(Preferred)
IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.3(Preferred)
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : 4. november 2008 15:53:16
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : 5. november 2008 3:53:15
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DHCPv6 IAID . . . . . . . . . . . : 234887826
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled

Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 6:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : local.lan
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : isatap.local.lan
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::5efe:192.168.1.3%16(Preferred)
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled

Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 12:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : 6TO4 Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 13:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : isatap.{115785AE-FA2B-4EC6-9DEE-4C9D0BF51
E65}
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes






PING

Microsoft Windows [Version 6.0.6000]
Copyright (c) 2006 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

C:\Users\MASKWOZ>CD\

C:\>PING 1.2.3.4

Pinging 1.2.3.4 with 32 bytes of data:

Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.

Ping statistics for 1.2.3.4:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss),

C:\>




EVO TOLE SO MOJI PODATKI NA VISTI OZ COMPU s katerim bi se moral vkljuæiti v mrežo
 

stein

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Ja itak, če naslov 1.2.3.4 ne obstaja.

Moraš pingati drug PC. Tisti, s katerim bi rad komuniciral, a ne ?
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Najbolje, da še na njem tale IPCONFIG in PING poženeš in skopiraš sem.
Tamle seveda daj : ping 192.168.1.3
 

maskwoz

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Ipconfig in pinganje na compu kateri je v mreži pod imenom PISARNA:
Pinganje je uspelo na
192.168.1.1 ter 192.168.1.2 ne pa na 192.168.1.3


(XP):Microsoft Windows XP [različica 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\Owner>CD\

C:\>IPCONFIG/ALL

IP konfiguracija za Windows

Ime gostitelja . . . . . . . . . . . . : PISARNA
Primarna Dns pripona . . . . . . . . . :
Vrsta vozlišča . . . . . . . . . . . . : Nepoznano
Usmerjanje IP omogočeno. . . . . . . . : Ne
WINS Proxy omogočen. . . . . . . . . . : Ne

Ethernet kartica Local Area Connection:

S povezavo določena DNS pripona . . :
Opis. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : VIA Rhine II Fast Ethernet Adapter

Fizični naslov. . . . . . . . . . . : 00-16-E6-84-06-64
DHCP omogočen . . . . . . . . . . . : Ne
IP naslov . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.56
Maska podomrežja. . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Privzeti prehod . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DNS strežniki . . . . . . . . . . . : 193.189.160.13
193.189.160.23

C:\>PING 192.168.1.3

Preverjanje dosegljivosti 192.168.1.3 z 32 B podatkov:

Iztekla se je časovna omejitev za zahtevo.
Iztekla se je časovna omejitev za zahtevo.
Iztekla se je časovna omejitev za zahtevo.
Iztekla se je časovna omejitev za zahtevo.

Statistika preverjanja dosegljivosti za 192.168.1.3:
Paketov: Poslanih = 4, Prejetih = 0, Izgubljenih = 4 (100% izguba),

C:\>PING 192.168.1.1

Preverjanje dosegljivosti 192.168.1.1 z 32 B podatkov:

Odgovor od 192.168.1.1: bajtov=32 čas < 1 ms TTL=128
Odgovor od 192.168.1.1: bajtov=32 čas < 1 ms TTL=128
Odgovor od 192.168.1.1: bajtov=32 čas = 1ms TTL=128
Odgovor od 192.168.1.1: bajtov=32 čas < 1 ms TTL=128

Statistika preverjanja dosegljivosti za 192.168.1.1:
Paketov: Poslanih = 4, Prejetih = 4, Izgubljenih = 0 (0% izguba),
Povprečni čas v milisekundah:
Minimum = 0ms, Maksimum = 1ms, Povprečje = 0ms

C:\>PING 192.168.1.2

Preverjanje dosegljivosti 192.168.1.2 z 32 B podatkov:

Odgovor od 192.168.1.2: bajtov=32 čas < 1 ms TTL=128
Odgovor od 192.168.1.2: bajtov=32 čas < 1 ms TTL=128
Odgovor od 192.168.1.2: bajtov=32 čas < 1 ms TTL=128
Odgovor od 192.168.1.2: bajtov=32 čas < 1 ms TTL=128

Statistika preverjanja dosegljivosti za 192.168.1.2:
Paketov: Poslanih = 4, Prejetih = 4, Izgubljenih = 0 (0% izguba),
Povprečni čas v milisekundah:
Minimum = 0ms, Maksimum = 0ms, Povprečje = 0ms

C:\>PING 192.168.1.3

Preverjanje dosegljivosti 192.168.1.3 z 32 B podatkov:

Iztekla se je časovna omejitev za zahtevo.
Iztekla se je časovna omejitev za zahtevo.
Iztekla se je časovna omejitev za zahtevo.
Iztekla se je časovna omejitev za zahtevo.

Statistika preverjanja dosegljivosti za 192.168.1.3:
Paketov: Poslanih = 4, Prejetih = 0, Izgubljenih = 4 (100% izguba),

C:\>
 

maskwoz

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TOLE PA E IZ VISTE PINGANJE JE USPELO NA 1.1 TER 1.2

Microsoft Windows [Version 6.0.6000]
Copyright (c) 2006 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

C:\Users\MASKWOZ>cd\

C:\>ipconfig/all/p

Error: unrecognized or incomplete command line.

USAGE:
ipconfig [/allcompartments] [/? | /all |
/renew [adapter] | /release [adapter] |
/renew6 [adapter] | /release6 [adapter] |
/flushdns | /displaydns | /registerdns |
/showclassid adapter |
/setclassid adapter [classid] ]

where
adapter Connection name
(wildcard characters * and ? allowed, see examples)

Options:
/? Display this help message
/all Display full configuration information.
/allcompartments Display information for all compartments.
/release Release the IPv4 address for the specified adapter.
/release6 Release the IPv6 address for the specified adapter.
/renew Renew the IPv4 address for the specified adapter.
/renew6 Renew the IPv6 address for the specified adapter.
/flushdns Purges the DNS Resolver cache.
/registerdns Refreshes all DHCP leases and re-registers DNS names
/displaydns Display the contents of the DNS Resolver Cache.
/showclassid Displays all the dhcp class IDs allowed for adapter.
/setclassid Modifies the dhcp class id.

The default is to display only the IP address, subnet mask and
default gateway for each adapter bound to TCP/IP.

For Release and Renew, if no adapter name is specified, then the IP address
leases for all adapters bound to TCP/IP will be released or renewed.

For Setclassid, if no ClassId is specified, then the ClassId is removed.

Examples:
> ipconfig ... Show information
> ipconfig /all ... Show detailed information
> ipconfig /renew ... renew all adapters
> ipconfig /renew EL* ... renew any connection that has its
name starting with EL
> ipconfig /release *Con* ... release all matching connections,
eg. "Local Area Connection 1" or
"Local Area Connection 2"
> ipconfig /allcompartments ... Show information about all
compartments
> ipconfig /allcompartments /all ... Show detailed information about all
compartments

C:\>ping 192.168.1.3

Pinging 192.168.1.3 with 32 bytes of data:

Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.

Ping statistics for 192.168.1.3:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss),

C:\>ping 192.168.1.
Ping request could not find host 192.168.1.. Please check the name and try again
.

C:\>ping 192.168.1.1

Pinging 192.168.1.1 with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128

Ping statistics for 192.168.1.1:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms

C:\>ping 192.168.1.2

Pinging 192.168.1.2 with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 192.168.1.2: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.1.2: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.1.2: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.1.2: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128

Ping statistics for 192.168.1.2:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms

C:\>ipconfig/all

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : MASKWOZ-PC
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : local.lan

Wireless LAN adapter Wireless Network Connection:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Con
nection
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-1B-77-13-78-ED
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : local.lan
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8168/8111 Family PCI-E Gigabit
Ethernet NIC (NDIS 6.0)
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-1A-92-F0-08-41
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::405:b3c:35d6:a466%9(Preferred)
IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.3(Preferred)
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : 4. november 2008 15:53:16
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : 5. november 2008 3:53:16
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DHCPv6 IAID . . . . . . . . . . . : 234887826
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled

Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 6:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : local.lan
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : isatap.local.lan
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::5efe:192.168.1.3%16(Preferred)
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled

Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 12:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : 6TO4 Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 13:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : isatap.{115785AE-FA2B-4EC6-9DEE-4C9D0BF51
E65}
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

C:\>


NISEM TE PA ČIST DOBR RAZUMEL TVOJ ZADNJI POST NAMERČ
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HVALA ŽE V NAPREJ
 

stein

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V zadnjem postu sem ti svetoval tisto, kar si potem tudi naredil
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Zanimivo, da Visto ne gre pingat niti z istega PC-ja. Si to kaj nastavljal ? Firewalle ?

Kot zgleda, povezava deluje. Torej naslednje dvoje probaj na Vista računalniku :
ping pisarna
net view pisarna
 

maskwoz

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Microsoft Windows [Version 6.0.6000]
Copyright (c) 2006 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

C:\Users\MASKWOZ>PING PISARNA
Ping request could not find host PISARNA. Please check the name and try again.

C:\Users\MASKWOZ>CD\

C:\>PING PISARNA
Ping request could not find host PISARNA. Please check the name and try again.

C:\>NET VIEW PISARNA
System error 53 has occurred.

The network path was not found.


C:\>



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